I’m so fucking tired of all of this, they literally attempted to hit Kremlin with drone before a week and Russia still didn’t curb stomp them for some reason. Hundreds are dying in Donbas still, this has been going on since 2014, Donbas is still not free, soldiers are dying, I don’t even know at this point. What’s the problem in just evaporating Kiev, clown and his neo nazi regime and be done with it? I don’t even know how their army is still functionally operating after all the weapons and infrastructure destroyed and crippled, hundreds of thousands of soldiers killed and hundreds dying daily.

Hordes of nazis on the internet and news don’t show signs of stopping of talking about Ukraine 24/7 even after more than a year of this madness.

I literally can’t take it anymore, when will this end?

    • @redtea@lemmygrad.ml
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      1711 months ago

      This sounds closer to what the US does to its enemies and it could be a disaster for several reasons. It increases the chance of civilian deaths. It destabilises what will be left. It strengthens the resolve of the enemy and increases their support from civilians.

      The US can get away with this tactic because it is geographically protected – i.e. it tends to attack places on the other side of the world and attack countries who can’t fight back from such a distance. The US either doesn’t have to live with the consequences or benefits from the tragedy.

      For Russia in Ukraine, all the problems would happen without (m)any of the ‘benefits’. Carpet bombing Kiev would exacerbate the misery of millions of ordinary Ukrainians and possibly result in increased terror attacks in Russia. War is going to be bloody but that destruction should be minimised as much as possible.

      I’m unsure that Marxists should be calling for escalation. War is terrible enough without baying for more blood. It may sometimes be one option, but war is not the best way to defeat fascists; they’re always willing to one-up you. Fascists/imperialists cannot be beaten at their own game. They must be handled very carefully.

        • @redtea@lemmygrad.ml
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          511 months ago

          Marxists should not carpet bomb countries run be people they dislike or hope that others to do it for them. That would make them just as bad as fascists, if not worse.

          Reducing this to ‘can’t debate Nazis’ is problematic. It closes off all possiblity of peaceful and Marxist solutions.

          Have you read Grover Furr’s Khrushchev Lied? You might want to read what he has to say about how the Soviets dealt with even internal ‘enemies’ relatively peacefully. It’s the chapter on displacement during WWII.

          • @Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.mlOP
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            411 months ago

            Not civilians ofc, government buildings and army, every single one of them, command posts, bases, every single weapon sent before it even arrives, push like in the beginning and end it right then and there.