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Interesting interview - it is incredibly spicy at points. Both of them lost their cool at several points here and I don’t think either of them come out sounding good.

For what it’s worth I think Hallam’s spiel about acting emotionally instead of using critical thinking sounds pretty suspect but clearly he’s found this an effective line to take when campaigning.

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    Just got around to listening to this, and wow! This guy is absolutely wild. I’m less than ten minutes in and Hallam sounds like a petulant partner trying to have a fight with the interviewer.

    Hallam: When I tell you that a thousand million people will be killed by rich people you should have a reaction.

    Robinson: OK that’s interesting let’s dig into what reaction you want people to have.

    Hallam: I can’t believe you just said, you should know the correct answer and the fact that you don’t tells me you don’t love me.

    I’ve got another twenty minutes now how much worse is it going to get?

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      1 year ago

      Oh he’s one of those I don’t like your question therefore it’s a bad faith question types.

      Even when Nick tries to complement his efforts in getting the government to declare a climate emergency he calls it “a mind bendingly stupid question”. What is he on?

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        1 year ago

        Actually do you know what this interview reminds me of? Anytime Tommy Robinson is interviewed. The same style of shrugging off the question, attacking the interviewer, meandering off on tangents, calling the government “the elites”. It’s the same play book. Frightening.

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          Just got to the part where he threatens to jail Nick Robinson unless he cooperates. Fucking wild! I can’t believe I’m hearing this.

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            He doesn’t like that question on why his daughter left XR. He wants to call out journalists but doesn’t want to be scrutinised himself. Again, Tommy Robinson playbook.

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              1 year ago

              Got to the end. That was insane. I’ve been listening to Political Thinking since the beginning and have never heard anything like that.