I recently read a book about Degrowth and how Capitalism is destroying our planet and is not helping with our standard of living (among other things). However, the attributes of Degrowth sound a lot like (Eco)Socialism.
Both Ideologies want to remove capitalism and replace it with a social and sustainable market which concentrates on the well being of the people. Everywhere I looked online, it didn’t directly compare the two and only talked about how the two factions should band together in the fight against Capitalism for the Planet. Honestly, Degrowth just sounds like a specfic flavor of (Eco)Socialism to me. But then why not just call it Ecosocialism instead of Degrowth?
So what exactly is the difference between the two if there even is one? And what are your overall thoughts on this topic?
So what exactly is the difference between the two if there even is one? And what are your overall thoughts on this topic?
as i understand, the two are not mutually exclusive and substantially overlap; some people would probably say degrowth is also an inherent and necessary aspect of ecosocialism, and therefore not distinct from ecosocialism so much as a strategy of mitigation within it. i don’t think this is quite the case–there’s probably at least a few non-socialist degrowthers out there, especially as ecofascism becomes more normal on the right–but in general yeah, degrowthers will overwhelmingly also be ecosocialists.
I think I somewhat understand it now, thanks. I was mostly just confused by how similar they are, yet have different names. Also the concept of “Ecofascism” is new to me, I didn’t know it existed.
So from what I read online, Ecofascists act authoritarian and fascistically in the name of the environment? That sounds pretty alien to me, since I usually connect climate activists with leftists. Wikipedia even says that they want to stop immigration to combat overpopulation? It sounds like something a comic book villian would try to do lmao (i.e. something over the top that wouldn’t even solve the problem)
So from what I read online, Ecofascists act authoritarian and fascistically in the name of the environment? That sounds pretty alien to me, since I usually connect climate activists with leftists.
i would say more that they want fascism but instead of justifying it under the usual pretenses, they justify it with the logical consequence of such a genocidal ideology, which is fewer people (and fewer people = lesser impact on the environment overall).
Makes sense, I guess. Perhaps they also see it as a necessary evil and only choose to sacrifice the people they care the least about. But then again, I still don’t really understand their mindset and the way they think.
