I probably agree, I don’t know too much on the subject really.

99 miata here too!

Same. It should be illegal for them to be forcing this shit on us. At least I only have to endure it on my work pc. No windows on personal devices

This is why governments run by the people need to control corporations.

I feel like this movement could move toward the anti-natalist movement, since thats the best way to prevent unending humanity growth. People don’t want to realize that though. Not saying it’s good or bad.

It takes a huge shift in the US. There’s a stigma that if you don’t get new youre “a poor”. The funniest part is, the poorest people i know have a hatred for the poor. Like dude, you are 1 paycheck from being homeless but yes the homeless person is your issue not the tech billionaires.

Anyway, my mindset is the opposite in that im more disgusted by new and feel much happier with repair and reuse. But thats very rare. Not to mention late stage capitalism has made a lot of new stuff shit compared to old (cars, appliances, houses, consoles that don’t require Spyware and accounts to even play a single player offline game etc)

Who tf these youngins

Lucky!! Nice work

That just means you took care of your ears and have good ear genetics

Don’t use Google.

Agree, poor word choice. I just meant that yes some jobs are more economically beneficial. You can’t pay an artist the same as a sewage worker.

I agree with you. You have my vote!

And yes, a lot of people tend to ignore that the crap jobs that need to be done wont get done without monetary incentive. So im glad you mentioned that point

Maybe not the 50s but the 90s, for certain

Good argument. Your statement solves all our issues. How can people not see this isn’t a black and white issue? It can however be put simply:

Billionaires shouldn’t exist.

Everyone deserves a living wage (NOT access to all life’s luxuries)

If you feel like busting your ass working or saving money, you should be ABLE to afford the luxuries you want.

I do like it on occasion yes, and those workers deserve a living wage. They don’t deserve the luxuries of life that a doctor has, however.

Id agree the “hardness” of a job is difficult to quantify. A job where you sit at a computer all day but talk to people and run large projects to build houses or factories or anything like that, will pay more than a fast food person. They both are working, but it’s different. Could the fast food employee design an electrical system for a food facility ? No. Could the electrical engineer work fast food? Almost definitely yes.

Interesting take. I don’t believe it’s an all or nothing question. But I think we can all agree that a lazy-by-choice person doesnt deserve as much as someone who went to school for 6 years to be a doctor. Now.the lazy person doesn’t deserve prison or to be homeless. But if you think both people need to live in a 1 bedroom apartment for things to be equal, thats actually oppression, not equality.

Id agree with you there! But youre actively bettering the community and improving quality of life, you deserve to have a comfortable living situation for that. You can’t just give houses and money to lazy or addicted people, that doesnt solve the issue is what im saying.

Hmm, I actually love older games just as much as new, so that doesn’t bother me. Plus there is a lot more to life than gaming that has gone way down hill

And none of them see it. They say I need it or ill be left behind. I can’t believe theyre this easily duped.

Thats a good question, but let me also ask this: is every single human equal? I hate to break it to you, but there are people providing a lot more value to the world than a taco bell worker. So yes, I think the taco bell worker deserves a surviveable wage while they study to be greater and have social safety nets in place to assist. However if they only aspire to stay at taco bell, smoke weed and play cod all night after work, that is fine, but to be fair to others who aspired to be greater, the taco bell worker doesn’t deserve as much as them.

Before you call me an old boomer-i actually know people who live the above life and im sorry, they don’t deserve to have more than a small apartment. Which maybe is fine with them ! But no, im not going to give up my place to benefit those who aren’t attributing as much. Notice, I didn’t say they aren’t deserving of fair and affordable housing and safety nets.