• @huginn
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    112 months ago

    Rogue was the start of the genre - games that came after we’re always measured against it.

    Rogue was a dungeon crawler - a type of game that had been done plenty of times before. Starting over on death had also been done.

    But it became genre defining by being the best at both.

    Spire I’d say is similar. It is genre defining because the combination of gameplay elements was so perfectly executed that it will become the measuring stick against which all roguelike deck builders will be measured. So Spirelike fits, I think.

      • @huginn
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        132 months ago

        Soulslike and Metroidvania spring to mind.

        As games become more and more complex these kind of genre defining sets will become more common I think.

          • @huginn
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            62 months ago

            Didn’t we start this chain by saying this genre needs it’s own name?

            • @Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
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              2 months ago

              The genre can be called “rogue like deck builder” all you want, we all know what it really is: “Spirelike”

              Well, you did. And you also directly acknowledged that the genre already has a name in the same sentence.

              It seems to be your opinion that it needs another one, even though the name it has is already so well established that it has its own steam tag.

              I mean, you’re entitled to have that opinion, and I also understand the logic behind it. But this conversation wasn’t started with “us” saying it needs another name.

              • @huginn
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                22 months ago

                Sorry I interpreted

                I really think it deserves its own genre.

                As a statement calling for a genre with it’s own name.

                • @Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
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                  12 months ago

                  I meant that to say, it’s a genre that deserves to be distinguished from just one of the many games that define it.

                  As a rephrase of that comment, defining the 5 games I listed after one game that basically just came before them would be dishonest because of how different those games all are from Slay the Spire and each other. That’s why the genre is named after what they all have in common, which is a mashup of two existing genres.

                  What you’re proposing would be like renaming the first person shooter genre to “halo-like” or “call of duty-like” just because those games predate a lot of others and people like them. It’s unnecessary and loses the descriptive quality of the name it has.