Look and see if your state has at home Burial services. If they do tell them you want to bury the body at home and you do not want it embalmed. Then buy an absolute fuck ton of Dermestid beetles online. Then, get ready for the horrid smell as they eat the flesh off of your father’s rotting corpse over the course of a year or more.
Didn’t we have a community for unethical life pro tips? This comment would be a perfect post there.
I don’t see what is unethical about it.
It’s probably not what his father wanted
Well he should have considered that before dying. Its about personal responsibility.
We don’t know that, and imo that hardly matters now as they are dead and never coming back. They no longer have wants, needs, or feelings.
put it in the will or enlist it to a trusted family member, those are the two options you have to deal with this problem.
will is a limited immortal version of the dead person, you can only ask them questions about their death
“put it in the will” is because back in the 70s the will could only read paper slips
will is a shortened form of william, the first man to never die (in 1683)to clarify, that’s not their birth date
- unethical death pro tips
I guess I’m gonna have to talk to my apartment’s landlord first.
It’s better to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
Imagine a neighbor who’s annoying dog barks in their yard sometimes.
Now imagine a neighbor who’s fathers’s rotting corpse is slowly being eaten by beetles over the course of a year or more.
If you bury the body first it should take away a good chunk of the smell but you have to bury it in like a mesh cage almost so the bones and stuff can’t be slowly moved over time by the beetles.
I’ll take the corpse
When I read this, I was curious how possible it would be, if there’s sufficient supply in the market… I found this vendor page. So, there would probably be enough supply as there are taxidermists who need to clean big game skulls, which require thousands of larva and adults, and the vendor say you should email them if you need more than 10’000. I couldn’t learn how much time it would take, but they do say that more = faster, and to communicate with them to fit your project timeline.
It’s actually the exact opposite to what he says. In the US you can do almost anything you want with human remains, while in Europe it’s much more restricted. In Denmark for example, you have to have the body/ashes buried in a licensed cemetery. You can’t keep the ashes yourself, you can’t bury them in your backyard, you can’t spread them at some random special place (except for the sea in rare circumstances).
Also… what awesome displays? Does he think knight armour in museums has bones inside it?
Well yes of course, how else are they going to get the armor to stand up? /s
There are minimum wage employees inside, working in shifts.
They moonlight as living statues in the city center.Talk about pigeonholed.
There are quite a few places in Europe decorated with bones and even on display corpses.
For instance: https://www.slate.com/blogs/atlas_obscura/2014/10/01/the_catacombs_of_capuchin_monastery_in_palermo_sicily.html
Ever seen a church made out of bones in America?
Only thing coming to mind is the catacombs in Paris and stuff like that.
The reason for restrictions in Denmark is to protect our clean ground water. If people could just place dead corpses or ashes everywhere, the drinking water would be polluted with heavy metals and other chemicals.
In Denmark heavy metal is for your ears only!
So like your drinking water isn’t cleaned or filtered? It’s simply just the groundwater in Denmark? I can’t imagine creamed remains actually being a problem with a water supply, seems extreme.
creamed remains
Now I want to see your recipe book.
Oh ho ho no, this are creamed dad, old family recipe!
It’s filtered, but that’s it.
Drillings aren’t allowed near graveyards or other polluted properties.
That’s the same as in the US.
Pretty sure this is legal, they just wouldn’t release an unembalmed corpse for health reasons.
Wouldn’t OP just have to find a qualified mortician willing to do the work?
You can absolutely get the corpse unembalmed but you won’t find any mortician willing to do this. You can do it yourself with a ton of Dermestid beetles, though, but it’s gonna smell awful.
There’s gotta be a service that does this, though.
With some searching around, I found this place in Oklahoma: https://skullcleaning.com/
They mainly deal with hunting trophies but their price list covers almost every vertebrate animal you could think of: https://skullcleaning.com/services/skull-cleaning-pricelist/
“Human” is conspicuously absent, of course, but then you go to the “Skeletal Articulation” page and the first photo is of a fucking Centaur lmfao: https://skullcleaning.com/services/skeleton-articulation/
I feel like if you called up and asked, you at leastwouldn’t get a hard “no”. I’d bet good money that they’ve done work on human cadavers before.
I love the suspicious amount of research you put into this
What can I say, it nerd-sniped me.
Human remains will only be accepted from bona-fide educational facilities. Contact us for more details.
Likely an explicit no. :(
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Apparently there’s no federal law (in the US) banning the ownership of human bones because up until the mid to late 20th century it was apparently common practice for med students to purchase real human bones for their studies. Most of them apparently came from India, until the country banned the export of human remains, which must have played a part in causing the practice to fall out of style.
If anyone has anything to correct/add, please do so. This was just a quick google search out of morbid curiosity
I know the POTC ride had a bunch of real skulls (and a few are still there) because, at the time, they were cheaper and easier to get then good looking fakes.
there was apparently one amusement park ride that ended up getting its hands on a literal corpse of a human, only to be discovered when one of the arms broke off while someone was moving it.
apparently, the corpse in particular, was that of a notorious criminal who nobody really liked, so some fuckwit decided it would be funny to preserve his body and put it up for exhibition. And then it just kinda, continued from there, until it was discovered.
I remember that body being found but I didn’t hear they figured it out
there was definitely room somewhere along the line for numerous parties to never discover it, but at some point somebody inevitably would’ve discovered it, preserved bodies aren’t exactly the most “durable” of things.
It’s only 1 still inside the ride. I can’t remember if it was always only one but it’s the skull on the crossbones above the throne towards the end of the ride.
The reason India stopped that is because they realized they were exporting way too many human skeletons and way too many child skeletons in that, so they eventually realized that this meant there were mass murders involved. India to this day has problems with that but it’s become better.
Here’s an interview of a guy who went underground to familiarize himself with the problem and even talked to a bunch of people involved. It’s a great video :)
My highschool biology classroom had the skeleton of an indian tween in a closet. It had been professionally skeletonized and rigged up and everything. The bio teacher swore it was there when he started teaching and that he doesnt know anything about it…
He also had a human fetus preserved in a jar of formaldehyde.
It’s true. My aunt had the skeleton of a person, probably from India, for use when she was in medical school in the '80s. She took him on the bus with her in a bigass suitcase I guess. They talked about it as if it wasn’t fucked up.
they can keep the meat
I just want the skeleton
Peak autismo mode
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What if I put it in my will that I want my skeleton turned into a kick ass statue in a WH40K style marine suit?
What would be the point? Space marine armor is fully enclosed, nobody would see the skeleton anyway.
It’s not for them, it’s for my skeleton.
Akshully, a significant portion of them prefers to fight without a helmet where possible, for various reasons such as chapter culture or certain gene seed variants. The primarchs are also often depicted without helmets, but considering the lore is essentially imperial propaganda it might make sense to depict them that way for PR reasons.
Wearing insanely heavy armor only to leave the helmet off seems like the kind of thing so obviously stupid it should be kept out of propaganda material at all costs.
Not defending the practice in a combat scenario because that’s obviously dumb especially in the uber warfare that’s happening in 40k. Virus bombs that can destroy entire ecosystems in proverbial seconds, rounds and shells with more diameter than a fucking bus, chaos sorcery of the worst kind is a frequent encounter as well.
But for propaganda material it makes a lot of sense I’d say, the masses need to see their heroes’ faces. There are also some marine chapters that use mutated or otherwise extreme gene seed when making their warriors, for example one chapter becomes a lot more animalistic in its physical characteristics and the helmet negatively impacts their altered natural senses.
Would be more ethical to buy a full body autopsy CT scan its’s only a fewthousands dollars) to get a 3D model, then 3D print a replica of his skeleton out of something not biodegradable.
how is that more ethical if they want that?
Not dessicrating the corpse, since CT xray is nondestructive.
…how would a coroner go about removing a skeleton without destroying the body? I’m pretty sure this is nowhere in a coroner job description. I’d tell him the same thing.
So what you’re saying is that Anon just asked the wrong person.
I would assume you would need to dissolve everything but the bones, unless you want to start cutting and peeling and pulling and scraping.
They use special beetles. Eats all the meat off nice and clean.
I went to the Museum of Osteology in Oklahoma City and they have an area in the entrance where you can watch the beetles do their thing.
That would be something worth seeing
True or not this is now a fact in my mind.
They don’t just throw a whole body in with them. But they do use them to finish cleaning the bones.
You just need a straw and some patience.
You Can’t Keep Your Parents’ Skulls [Caitlin Doughty | September 4, 2019 | theatlantic.com]
Under U.S. law, it’s nearly impossible to get permission to decapitate and de-flesh a relative’s remains.
Abuse-of-corpse laws exist for a reason. They protect people’s bodies from being mistreated (ahem, necrophilia). They also prevent a corpse from being snatched from the morgue and used for research or public exhibition without the dead person’s consent. History is littered with such violations. Medical professionals have stolen corpses and even dug up fresh graves to get bodies for dissection and research. Then there are cases like that of Julia Pastrana, a 19th-century Mexican woman with a condition called hypertrichosis, which caused hair to grow all over her face and body. After she died, her husband saw that there was money to be made by displaying Pastrana in freak shows, so he took her embalmed and taxidermied corpse on world tour. Pastrana had ceased to be regarded as human; her corpse had become a possession.
So where do skulls on bookcases come from? In the United States, no federal law prevents owning, buying, or selling human remains, unless the remains are Native American. Otherwise, whether you’re able to sell or own human remains is decided by each individual state. At least 38 states have laws that should prevent the sale of human remains, but in reality the laws are vague, confusing, and enforced at random. In one seven-month period in 2012–13, 454 human skulls were listed on eBay, with an average opening bid of just under $650 (eBay subsequently banned the practice).
If there were any legal wiggle room that might allow a person to get Dad’s head liberated from its fleshy shell, Tanya Marsh would know how to find it. Marsh is a law professor and the expert on human-remains law. “I will argue with you all day long,” she told me, “that it isn’t legal in any state in the United States to reduce a human head to a skull.”[1]
Literally 1984
I love her, it’s a dam shame youtube fucked her channel.
“that it isn’t legal in any state in the United States to reduce a human head to a skull.”
what a funny fucking statement.
The implication of course being that natural decay of human remains is technically, illegal.
I want my funeral to be a roast (comedic) but my fiancee said no :\
a roast
Oh!(comedic)
Oh.What were you planning to do with that fork and knife moody?
So your fiancée has already planned your funeral…
“On a good day?”
Your height varies a surprising amount as your spinal column compresses - this seems to be more pronounced in tall people (not sure why - we don’t have extra vertebrae).
As an example, measure your height in the morning and before you go to bed.
Gravity is a cruel mistress
Nope. Chuck Testa!
Old ass meme but it checks out
im gonna force (post mortem) whatever morgue that has to deal with my body upon death to rip all my teeth out so i can send them to my friends.
I’ve got worse ideas. Apparently there’s a company or was, idk if it’s still around that would preserve tats from the skin of the now longer alive individual. I’m really tempted to get a tattoo of a dashed grid on my back, with numbered squares (2x2inches per square for example) just so i can tell people that when i die it’s going to be removed, segmented, preserved, and then sent to people that knew me.
i would describe it is realist more than anything. People subscribe to things that are meaningless more often than not.
ah yes a classic
Going to have to update my will
This podcast goes into some good detail about how and why it’s illegal in the context of the guy being an investigative journalist ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP76ekb_DxI )
