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    “I just woke up to, like, people just skewing it even more,” Roan said of the reaction to her no endorsement post of Tuesday. “Endorsing and voting are completely different. I don’t agree with a lot of what is going on with, like, policies. Like, obviously, fuck the policies on the right, but also fuck some of the policies on the left. That’s why I can’t endorse.”

    “I’m not gonna settle for what the options are that are in front of me, and you are not gonna make me feel bad for that,” Roan added today with a critique of both candidates and their positions, “So yeah, I’m voting for fucking Kamala, but I’m not settling for what has been offered, because that’s questionable.”

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      fuck the policies on the right, but also fuck some of the policies on the left. That’s why I can’t endorse.

      That’s a lame take. Unless you personally are running, you’re not going to agree with everything a candidate says. Hell, even if you do run you’ll probably end up making decisions you’re not happy with. Nothing is going to be perfect, that’s not the world we live in.

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        fuck the policies on the right, but also fuck some of the policies on the left. That’s why I can’t endorse.

        That’s a lame take. Unless you personally are running, you’re not going to agree with everything a candidate says.

        So people should just vote and stfu about any nuance within a party they disagree with?

        Maybe I’m just not picking up what you’re putting down, but that’s how your comment scans to me.

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          She’s not really pointing out any nuance though, she’s just vaguely saying “both sides suck, but this one sucks slightly less”. At that point, why even bother with a public announcement at all? Plenty of celebrities don’t endorse anyone and no one care because they’re not out making press releases about it.

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            I can say that there are views that Harris has that I think suck, and at the same time say that I think Trump’s views suck, but Harris is better. It’s okay to be critical and still live in the reality of living in a FPtP system. Why make a public opinion? Just look at what her comments have brought. People are talking about her criticism of Harris, while also seeing that even though Harris doesn’t exactly align with her views, she’s still a clear better choice than that shit bag Trump. Intentional or not, her comments have gone viral and spread her views which will undoubtedly have an effect on some of her fans.

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                I think I can confidently say that Harris will be less bad for Palestine than Trump. So while it’s not her genocide, your statement is fairly accurate in that Harris is way better than Trump.

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                  Yea I guess she just keeps arguing for unconditional support and unlimited funding for the genocide even though Netanyahu has spit in Biden’s face every time he opens his mouth.

                  I’m not voting for president this year unless there is a permanent cease fire and the genocide has stopped.

                  I refuse to vote for the lesser of two genocides.

                  Just admit to yourself (it’s already obvious to everyone else) that you don’t give a fuck about the Palestinians and move along.

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    I fail to see a reason why I should give a single fuck about what this person thinks about any subject, including music. Get back in the recording booth, and make your little songs. Your opinions are irrelevant.

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      I don’t care about what she says, but effectively telling her to “shut up and dribble” is an incredibly dumb take.

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    Liberals: “There is no such thing as Blue MAGA.”

    Also Liberals: “Why aren’t you pledging your undying loyalty to Harris without question just like me?” 😡

    She had a very fair and reasonable take. Anyone should be skeptical and voting for Harris to Deny Trump is fine but that doesn’t mean there aren’t issues. People know the playbook by now material conditions and systematic issues won’t get addressed post election.

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      Endorsing is not the same as undying loyalty. Seems obvious. But I guess it has to be stated clearly.

      I think it’s perfectly fine to criticize anybody who says they’ll do everything in their power to support LGBTQ+, and then refuse to endorse Harris (even though she basically has).

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        She said she is still voting for her. I wouldn’t endorse someone active in genocide and who doesn’t match my values as well. I think she was fair and told people to think for themselves. It is good to see a celeb that isn’t a yes man for once.

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          I completely respect Gaza making people reluctant voters. But don’t tell me you’re doing everything in your power for LGBTQ+ if you’re not going to support the only candidate who supports those rights. Just don’t even mention it if you’re going to contradict it.

          Now, I only discovered who this person is this week (I heard one of her songs before all this stuff blew up). I don’t hate this person. My issues with her stance is about as minor as it can possibly be.

          I’m just a passive observer who is watching half the country vote for a megalomaniac, a sliver of ill informed cynics vote for a Russian stooge, and a bunch of otherwise rational Americans pretend they don’t STRONGLY side with one party of another on 95% of issues.

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              I watch enough cable news to know that they don’t take the extremism on the right seriously enough. And they’re too chicken shit to call it out 90% of the time because then they’ll look biased. They try to attack the left over literally anything to appear impartial.

              I pay attention to politics. And I notice the shit that happens that gets ignored.

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                I think it’s because the corporate media supports corporate status quo of corporate politicians on both sides.

                They manufacture culture wars when a real leftist starts to get their message out, for example the millionaire cable news hosts called out Bernie for having a million dollars after he wrote a New York Times best seller. lol, wtaf.

                That’s one small example, but the corporate cable news doesn’t want us to see past R good D bad, or vice versa.

                We actually have a lot more in common than we realize. Every body is pissed pff about money in politics, for example.

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                I think it’s because the corporate media supports corporate status quo of corporate politicians on both sides.

                They manufacture culture wars when a real leftist starts to get their message out, for example the millionaire cable news hosts called out Bernie for having a million dollars after he wrote a New York Times best seller. lol, wtaf.

                That’s one small example, but the corporate cable news doesn’t want us to see past R good D bad, or vice versa.

                We actually have a lot more in common than we realize. Every body is pissed pff about money in politics, for example.

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            I don’t think Trump should win. I also don’t think the status quo works for all Americans, and I would be skeptical of someone who recently bragged about Dick Cheney endorsements and seems to be shifting right on policy. Chappell wants voters to come to their own decision, and I think that best. Even Bernie said something similar of just don’t blindly listen to me if you think I’m wrong. It is healthy for democracy.