So they’re gonna try to kill this guy, right?
Man they are just plastering his face everywhere. Total fucking dystopian shit for stepping out of line and going against our masters, regardless of whether this dude was a reactionary chud or not
Can’t wait for that discourse. “Well we have to execute him, he’s a libertarian after all” lmao
I’m pretty sure Snowden swung that way too and I consider his ass a hero. The absolute bloodthirst from “liberals” re: him and Assange is incredible, and I’m sure it’ll never change.
I always just think about shit like this where it’s like what the hell is stopping people from fighting back but I know part of it is they will put you all over the news, publicly shame you (the greatest fear of most Westerners) and make your family’s lives hell. And yet people have the gall to portray other countries as “authoritarian”
The whole thing is them protecting their narcissism. It’s not like the victims of imperial power need the leaks to show them the evils of empire. It’s just whistleblowers like Assange, Snowden, Hersh etc show libs a mirror and their self-image of democracy, peace, and freedom utterly collapses. No more plausible deniability. That incites utter hatred from libs.
but, they said it was russia!
That accusation is about as ridiculous and stupid as the claim that the Russians blew up their own pipeline. Pure cope and a pathetic attempt to spin a cover story that no one with any degree of sense was ever going to believe because it is completely absurd.
And yet… 😔
😂
Why would Russia reveal to their enemy that they know have that enemy’s plans and share those plans with the world? Russia was the least plausible answer.
The discourse is pretty insane. Conspiracy theorists think this whole thing was staged, despite the info being leaked being extremely damning.
What was the content of the leak?
I have a post on this: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/594109
The articles (one in the main post and one in the comments) i linked mainly cover the military aspects of the leaks and i believe they were written based only on a small sample of the leaked documents that was available at the time. Apparently there is more in the leaks that relates to US intelligence operations, for instance how they spy on South Korea’s government.
Perfect. I’ve stickied that post because it seems really important rn.
Not sure, trying to catch on all the facts as we speak
I’m still not sure if this is an actual leak or just fake documents.
If it’s fake, then they accidentally told the truth about Ukraine. It’s all shit we already know.
The original documents are almost certainly real. Only question is why were they leaked and by who. It is not unlikely that the person they arrested is a patsy. Or maybe not. Who knows.
But the argument that it was done deliberately as some kind of 5D chess move doesn’t really hold water since some of the stuff in them is too damaging to the US and the idea that this sort of thing would be used to disseminate false information to trick the Russians is stupid anyway because Russia has a ton of other intelligence sources, they wouldn’t make or change plans based on one single information source, so the only ones fooled would be the general public observing the conflict.
Besides which, according to analysts who’ve looked into the documents they contain very little actionable information, most of it is very general and big picture stuff, and nothing really that wasn’t already known or suspected by OSINT. An actual disinformation operation would disseminate detailed and heretofore unknown but false info and would probably not do it via a random Discord server where the stuff would sit for a month before being noticed.
That’s not to say that the idea itself of leaks of genuine or mostly genuine documents being used to spread disinformation isn’t valid. The best way to disguise lies is to hide them among the truth. Which is why one thing that we need to be extremely wary of and that has apparently started to happen is that “additional documents” somehow turn up and get associated with the leak story but in reality they come from a completely different source and their veracity is much more questionable.
Various western mainstream media outlets (some like Bellingcat known to be very close to intelligence agencies) now seem to be engaged in exactly this sort of damage control/exploitation of the original leaks to disseminate actual false information and propaganda to paint a more rosy picture of the conflict for Ukraine than what the original leaks suggest, and to distract from the most damaging parts of the original leak.
The bottom line, as usual, is don’t believe anything that the western MSM tries to convince you of.
