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The rate they are going this doesn’t seem as mad as it would a year or two ago.
And that is the saddest part about it. There is a fatigued acceptance with the populism in the Tory party. Members seem to think it will sort itself out and commit to staying with the party. It looks very much to me like the infiltration of the far right is much worse than what anyone thinks.
Phil Moorhouse is saying that Farage is using this as a grift. He doesn’t really expect to even be accepted into the Tory membership. There is a lot of credence to this imo. Farage states a lot of things that would happen if only he had power. The reality is that he will never have to live up to that claim.
There is a lot of credence to this imo.
Him being a grifter is Exhibit A.
Has he joined the party. Nope.
Has he gained some recent boost in support indicating he may choose the parties ability to rule.
No.
Is he talking out of his arse in some desperate attempt to seem relevent. Ah yeah thats the one.
He was at the tory party conference dancing with Priti Patel. He withdrew brexit party candidates in tory seats. Rishi Sunak has said he’d be welcomed into the party. Jaco Smogg mentioned a red carpet. He’s popular with the base.
But I doubt he’d ever manage to become an elected MP. Suspect kingmaking and meddling is more his style. Far less work and you don’t actually have to get your hands dirty.
Not sure we are really disagreeing.
My point was more. If you are claiming to one day lead a party. You have not made the minimal effort to join. You really don’t have any GAS about that party. Just your own reputation.
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What evidence do you have that pensioners vote for Farage?
pension aged members within the party, I think. Not voters. As in - the choice of leadership is farage or pension aged people who can barely stand, let alone lead a party
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Everything you are saying is flawed, and nothing but more culture wars.
This is the demographics of the 2019 vote. The mean age of the Tory membership is 54. Tory MPs decided on Sunak not the membership. The membership rejected Sunak at the previous vote. Tory membership is in a consistent decline. It peaked in the 1950’s with 3m members. Currently it has 140,000, which is 0.04% of those who vote.
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You were generalising an opinion of a group with no evidence to back it up. That is the abject epitome of culture wars. You were inferring everyone above 60 is a nasty person. This is very much in line with atypical populist political statements. What I pointed out was that your opinion everyone who is Tory is above 60 was based on nothing but your biased opinion, which is a direct contrast to your claim.
That demographic of people is enormously important in voting calculations
It really is, but jumping up and down and blaming others for you not voting is not a credible fix. I really encourage as many young as I can to vote. Look at the demographics of the recent Polish election. The young came out in numbers and ousted the far right. It can be done if people are proactive. It won’t ever be achieved by blaming others for your own failings.
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Even if he miraculously could, he would only be a ruler of a smoking ruin.
