It should end with Riker and Deanna on the holodeck
I’d actually be ok with this.
And Picard.
Retcon them both.
No it’s a cgi aged-down Wil Wheaton, and Riker barges in to tell him he’s late for his shift at navigation or whatever.
Are you saying it was a holo novel with Wesley Crusher playing as Michael Burnham?
Some ferangi conned him into playtesting and debugging a new holonovel under the guise of it being a prototype training course for cadets. The whole series was the b-plot of a TNG episode about the ethics of clone voting or something.
You are not well.
Am I alone in liking that ending?
I like it too! I would say there are literally dozens of us but you’re the first I’ve ever encountered in the wild.
Well, I don’t necessarily need Riker, but then I never thought Disco was really Star Trek. It could stand on its own feet perfectly fine but shoehorning it into TOS killed it for me. VOY and DS9 were great and showed that you could do different and still fit well.
I always felt like they stretched a Star Trek skin over another IPs pilot in season 1
It reminded me a lot of Stargate Universe, a complete tonal whiplash that was clearly imitating other popular shows rather than a continuation of the franchise. I was pretty kind to it in the beginning because SGU got pretty good after I got over it not being Stargate as well, but Discovery S2 completely killed any hope I had.
Stargate Galactica was awesome.
I thought it was incredible that the SG:U writers copied all the teen drama from the SG1 episode Wormhole Extreme. It’s like they didn’t realize that episode was a parody.
RIP SGU
If you liked SGU maybe give Disco Season 4 a shot. I did not like 1-3 very much at all but S4 is one of my favorite seasons of any Trek series and I did not see it coming.
I actually caught up on S4 recently, but unfortunately did not like it. S3 was actually the one I enjoyed the most of the two, if only because I thought it was really amusing that they just decided to do Andromeda.
Haha yes. I wasn’t crazy about it but it was a lot better than Andromeda which is not saying much of anything (Why god did I watch all five seasons and how on Earth did it last that long?)
It has been a long, long time since I watched watched Andromeda but I remember always thinking it might be on the verge of something interesting then it seemingly forgetting what it was setting up and moving on to something boring again. Besides, I have always had a soft spot for dodgy look sci-fi action adventure from the 90s/00s.
Also I had a crush on Lexa Doig.
That last season was especially painful though, my god.
didn’t he play grudge
I am so sorry but I cannot give you the point. You forgot to say “umm…actually”.
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well I’ll be
I’m sorry but… I’m particularly offended by you pointing out numbers here. 50 years? Fuck you. Just… fuck you.
TNG aired in 1987, so it’s only 37 years. Whomever it was that wrote that headline stretched a bit to generate some extra clicks. Yeah, TAS ended in 1974, but there’s still 13 years in between where there was no Star Trek, which is apparently getting lumped into the Star-Trek-that-Riker-has-shown-up-in bundle.
I mean, that’s technically correct then. The last time there was a Trek Show without Frakes was 1974 (50 years ago)
Phrased differently, “it has been 50 years since a Star Trek show ended without a Jonathan Frakes appearance.”
Technically correct is the best kind of correct!!
The last year there was a star trek show without frakes was the year before tng was released…
Technically the were no trek shows between TOS and TNG, so technically the last trek show without Frakes would be when TOS ended.
It’s technically correct as long as reruns don’t count, and you exclude movies, etc… Hence “show”.
It’s all riding a line of being technically correct.
They are counting the time spent as a twinkle in his mom’s eye.
Meh. Looking forward to this show dying and making way for the good, new Trek shows, like LD, SNW, and Picard’s Season 3 (sorta).
So tired of Michael Burnham and her stupid “Magical Burnham Problem Solving Mary-su Solution Express”. Really too bad, because Saru, Tilly, Georgiuo, Staments, Adira, and basically all of the other characters are REALLY interesting in this show. Unfortunately, they didn’t relegate Burnham’s character for being a “get out of writer’s block free card” to the background and that basically doomed it.
Prodigy too, first season was fantastic.
You’ve described precisely how I feel about Disco, Trek is supposed to be about the whole team solving problems but somehow in any century…the destiny of the universe is all about her. Remove deus ex Burnham from the show and it could be so much better. Saru, Stamets and all are great, they’re just background to the Michael story.
I like Discovery, but I have to agree. So many of the narrative problems could have been solved by simply giving the line(s) of dialogue in which Burnham solves a problem to someone else on the bridge. Easy peasy. Mix it up.
Yeah the show would be so much better if they didn’t rely on Burnham as the “solver of all things”. Literally the first thing they do with her when she walks into Starfleet Command after the time jump is go “YO HAVE YOU TRIED THIS SOLUTION TO THE PRIONS?”. It’s like the writers can’t help themselves.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she has a stupid, uninspired speech that is a “These are the voyages” rip off at the end of the finale episode right before they inexplicably promote her to the Admiralty. It would be a fitting f*** you to end the show right in line with what the writers have done so far.
In my head Discovery will always be ST:MBS - The Michael Burnham Show.
Tilly? Seriously?
What beef you got with Tilly?
when i was a kid, i used to watch tng with my dad every saturday when i went to his house. the only bad thing about picard and discovery is that i wasn’t able to watch it with my dad.
Thats good. That it ends that is.
I like Frakes.
That said, in also like pretty much all Trek. I’m not a big fan of some of the series, but I don’t hate them, nor am I going to go around saying they’re “not trek” because reasons.
I’m looking forward to seeing more from the franchise, and I feel a bit alone in my universal enjoyment of Trek. There’s so many people hating on disco or Picard or whatever… I enjoy all of it.
I also enjoy Star wars and Orville, and Stargate, and pretty much most sci-fi… The only stuff, that’s popular, that I have no opinion on is Babylon 5, mainly because I have not watched any of it. Between that, the og BSG and some of the star wars properties (like the animated shows), I’ve watched almost all of the mainstream sci-fi, and honestly, it’s all pretty damn good.
I really liked how they forced the issue about time travel in disco, where the time machine suit thing wouldn’t go unless she went back to all the points she needed to in order to bring this circumstance to happen. I thought that was spot on. I try to ignore the multitude of time paradoxes in voy, and there are many, but it’s probably my least favorite part of that specific show, too much time shit, and it’s all done very poorly.
The only stuff, that’s popular, that I have no opinion on is Babylon 5, mainly because I have not watched any of it
I highly recommend you watch it. Just keep in mind the first season (esp the first half) is tough, some bad dialog and acting. But it has important character and setting development.
The end of season 1 things get better, and by the first few episodes of season 2 you’ll be hooked.
At the end of the day, I bet you’ll acknowledge that B5 has BOTH some of the worst writing/acting you’ll see in a TV show, AND some of the best writing/acting you’ll ever see anywhere.
Not this time. Pure fiction. We got you. It never happened.
Homie I’m 37 not 50.
I don’t mind people not liking discovery, such is the nature of these things.
People who claim Discovery isn’t Trek then swoon over Picard in the same comment can eat my whole ass though 😂
Yeah I don’t want to be friends with someone who believes their headcanon can change reality.
The show that was rewritten because it was too Trek? I really wanted to love Picard, but you’re right.
Riker probably wouldn’t be able to hear Burnham whisper yelling at him, anyway.
I was going to mention “you could’ve also said ‘first Star Trek since Enterprise to end’” but then I realized I forgot about Picard.
I was going to ask “But what about Prodigy” but that hasn’t actually aired its second season yet.
So yeah, first Star Trek show since The Animated Series to end without having Two Takes Frakes, even though I feel that having him on the director’s chair should count.
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