@georgegalloway

I warn @10DowningStreet we will fight any plan to conscript our young people to fight Joe Biden (or Donald Trump’s) Wars. Russia is not our enemy. China is not our enemy. Your government and the economic system it represents are our enemy. I promise you the Mother of All Battles against this. #NoConscription @No2NatoNo2War

Source: https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1769507929323921706

    • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.worldOP
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      4 months ago

      True, blue or red in the white house, one thing is true, there will be more endless (proxy) wars and maximum profit for military companies and contractors…

      • ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee
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        4 months ago

        Funny that you reply to this with the same script you’ve been following throughout the thread. Very genuine behavior!

  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    “Hitler is not our enemy, Tojo is not our enemy!”

    That’s you, that’s what you sound like.

    • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.worldOP
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      4 months ago

      Not even sure how to response to that…

      I would suggest to stop believing everything the gov’t and the US military propaganda machine tells you to believe, at least that’s what it seems like to me from reading your comment above…

      • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
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        4 months ago

        The war in Ukraine is literally based on the same apologia as Hitler’s invasion of the Sudetenland, and China is well documented as practicing inhumane medical torture on ethnic minorities it has targeted for neo-sinicization.

        Literally the only sources that dispute these facts are state apparatus media run by these two entities, or “independent” media outlets heavily sponsored by these two states or known puppets and collaborators of said states.

        You’re literally guilty of exactly what you’ve accused me of, then again useful idjits are never able to conceive of a fault that they themselves are not guilty of.

        • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.worldOP
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          4 months ago

          You do know that people on the other side of your view also think that you may be the ‘useful idjit’ by believing everything legacy media and the military industrial complex tells you about big bad Russia/China.

          All I see is push for more endless wars, where military companies/contractors make a great amount of profit, while our gov’t keeps telling us their is no money to help the people with health care/housing/education.

          • ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee
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            4 months ago

            Other side of what “view”? It’s not in dispute that Russia invaded Ukraine, and you haven’t addressed the fact that it’s not only “legacy” media reporting on that. Why shouldn’t we view this “legacy style” imperialistic aggression as a major threat? The last time this happened it turned into WWII, and many would argue appeasement made that possible.

            • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.worldOP
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              4 months ago

              I do not see in that matter, I just see it as US and our lackeys helping us go to more endless wars.

              Negotations will only start if the US president talks with Putin, the longer it takes the worse it will go for Ukraine, unless the goal is for regime change in Russia.

              We all know how well regime change goes when our US military is involved, just look at the middle east, africa, and Latin america…

              Ukraine coup 2014 and before, Russia/Ukraine conflict did not start on Feb. 2022.

              Last time it happened, Japan attacked Pearl Harbor which then made US join the battle in WW2.

              Soviet Union and the others were taking losses way before we joined, looking at the stats: 11-20 million Soviet Union deaths accured during WW2.

              Again negotations could happen if US president wants to, but all we do is keep funding proxy wars in Ukraine/Israel and many other places.

              • ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee
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                4 months ago

                Nobody is talking about sending US troops to Ukraine, and nobody but Russia is responsible for this war. What is there to negotiate? Ukraine has a right to self defense and Russia has no justification for what they’ve done.

                Nobody said the Ukrainian conflict started in 22, but funny how you bring up 2014 and don’t mention Russia illegally invading and then annexing Crimea. If that had any legitimacy, why did their troops not proudly fly their flag?

                And what is this irrelevant nonsense about Pearl Harbor? We’re speaking of how WW2 began, not how the US entered the war, namely Hitlers bullshit justifications for his invasion.

  • GrymEdm@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Ehh…there are good reasons to not want Russia or China to expand their influence. It doesn’t help that many Western leaders (like Sunak) are such bastards, but we can demand change among domestic bastards without running into the embrace of foreign bastards.

  • proper@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    one of those divisive “both sides” accounts. “I’m left but biden bad right guys?”

    please be careful before november, folks.

    • logicbomb@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 months ago

      They literally have this tag No2NatoNo2War. “No to NATO” right when Russia is invading Ukraine and threatening nearby NATO members? They’re giving their entire game away.