Researchers have predicted the collapse of the AMOC could happen any time between 2025 and 2095 — far sooner than previous predictions, although not all scientists are convinced.

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        I wouldn’t dismiss an article just because a fact check website down rates it.

        In this instance, though, it’s not far off. “The famous scientists at the Newsweek lab got things wrong a few decades ago, so all scientists today must be wrong.”

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        They are not far right, just right. And very credible. I’ll look for another source I guess.

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          “And very credible.” Lol. These are opinion pieces you are linking to. Let us know when you have a scientific article (ie Science, PNAS, Nature) to support your climate denial.

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          “Just right” is no more credible than “far right.” Right-wing politics is a pack of lies and absolutely nothing else.

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            Ring wing news sources actually value the truth, unlike establishment and left wing news sources.

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              Right-wing ideology only exists to protect power and privilege, Clyde - it exists to hide the truth and nothing else.

              But hey… maybe all that ivermectin you’ve been drinking will actually start working one of these days instead of slowly killing you, eh?

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                Hey, ivermectin worked for Rogan. And as a right wing unvaccinated gigachad I certainly don’t need it. Got through 4 COVID infections with just basic flu medicine.

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                  And brain damage worked for Jordan Peterson - will you be having a go at that next?

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          Are you okay now? I had to sit down after about six paragraphs. Metaphorically, of course; I wouldn’t stand up to read a dissertation on climate denial.

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          There are much newer wrong predictions as well. Point is though, that you can’t find a correct prediction.

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            Most predictions are generalized statements like “the world as a whole will be hotter” or “extreme weather will be more common”. I’d bet good money that you could verify both of those predictions using only your own personal experience and that of the people you know. You’re not being honest with yourself if you say the climate isn’t changing at all. If your point is that predicting the future is hard and therefore there’s no point in trying to understand what’s happening then that’s an idiotic point of view that shouldn’t require a rebuttal.

            I can tell from the way you’re speaking that you have your mind made up and none of these responses will make any difference to you but they may help someone else reading them.

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              The funny thing is, with that sentiment, when the AMOC stops, the average temps are going to plummet.

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              I meant more specific predictions. But you also saw the predictions about global cooling.

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      Not exactly a news source known for it’s unbiased and trustworthy reporting.

      Even if it were credible, the article is almost 10 years old.

      You need to do better than use a far-right organization’s outlet. Go to the true scientists, not reporters with a political agenda.

      Reputable sources such as NASA, the United Nations, and the National Geographic Society, which base their conclusions on scientific evidence and rigorous research are much more reliable.

      It is understandable to feel unhappy with the current reality. However, ignoring the situation and trying to find evidence that it is not real will not benefit anyone. In fact, it may even cause harm. As the saying goes, it is better to be safe than sorry.

      It is important to face the reality and take appropriate actions to improve the situation. How else will a difference ever be made?

      Edit: I named American websites (apart from the UN), because I assume by your source that you are American. This is a global issue, though. European reputable institutions:

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      That article was the epitome of the old saying “figures don’t lie, but liars can figure”. They cherry picked studies and statistics to support the conclusion they wanted to reach, absolute garbage “science”.