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    8 months ago

    Yeah, if you want them to stop you’ve got to kill them

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        8 months ago

        Wiggin was a pawn tho. He had no idea he was killing anything, certainly not a species. If anyone deserves the named solution it’s Graff. Rackham to a lesser extent.

        This is borne out in speaker for the dead where ender devotes himself to finding a viable world for the new hive queen.

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          8 months ago

          He also didn’t know he was killing the kid at the beginning on the story either, but he definitely meant to make sure that he wouldn’t be bullying anyone anymore.

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          I think it’s more of a book reference to his fight with bonzo, who was bullying ender. Ender was a few years younger and knew he had to win the fight “permanently,” so it’s inferred that he knew what he was doing (not intending to kill him but that’s obviously a possibility).

          Iirc, the officials told ender that bonzo was sent home. In reality, he did actually kill bonzo and was lied to about it.

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            8 months ago

            Fair but ender himself says he never meant to kill bonzo or the kid in his earth school.

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              8 months ago

              That’s fair, though he was trying to permanently end the bullying, which is what i think OP was referencing at least. Since, you know, that would end bullying permanently

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            8 months ago

            His goal was to demonstrate that he was a crazy animal. That was the thing he was hoping would keep the bullying away: demonstrating a lack of constraint.

            It wasn’t so much about disabling the other boy as about establishing an image as an unpredictable enemy.

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              His goal was to point out that it wasn’t worth it to mess with him, he’s going to fight back hard and take you out. It was about deterring him from wanting to ever pick on him. Right, his goal wasn’t to permanently disfigure him, but to establish a permanent idea that it isn’t worth it to pick on him