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    A search engine can’t pay a website for having the honor of bringing them visits and ad views.

    Fuck reddit, get delisted, no problem.

    Weird that google is ignoring their robots.txt though.

    Even if they pay them for being able to say that glue is perfect on pizza, having

    User-agent: *
    Disallow: /
    

    should block googlebot too. That means google programmed an exception on googlebot to ignore robots.txt on that domain and that shouldn’t be done. What’s the purpose of that file then?

    Because robots.txt is completely based on honor (there’s no need to pretend being another bot, could just ignore it), should be

    User-agent: Googlebot
    Disallow:
    User-agent: *
    Disallow: /
    
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        My robots.txt has been respected by every bot that visited it in the past three months. I know this because i wrote a page that IP bans anything that visits it, and l also put it as a not allowed spot in the robots.txt file.

        I’ve only gotten like, 20 visits in the past three months though, so, very small sample size.

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          I know this because i wrote a page that IP bans anything that visits it, and l also put it as a not allowed spot in the robots.txt file.

          This is fuckin GENIUS

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            only if you don’t want any visits except from yourself, because this removes your site from any search engine

            should write a “disallow: /juicy-content” and then block anything that tries to access that page (only bad bots would follow that path)

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                Oops. As a non-native English speaker I misunderstood what he meant. I understood wrongly that he set the server to ban everything that asked for robots.txt

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                  Just in case it makes you feel any better: I’m a native English speaker who always aced the reading comprehension tests back in school, and I read it the exact same way. Lol! I’m glad I wasn’t the only one. :)

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              You need to read again the thing that was described, more carefully. Imagine for example that by “a page,” the person means a page called /juicy-content or something.

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          Interesting way of testing this. Another would be to search the search machines with adding site:your.domain (Edit: Typo corrected. Off course without - at -site:, otherwise you will exclude it, not limit to.) to show results from your site only. Not an exhaustive check, but another tool to test this behavior.

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        for common people they respect and even warn a webmaster if they submit a sitemap that has paths included in robots.txt

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      I guessed in a previous comment that given their new partnership, Reddit is probably feeding their comment database to Google directly, which reduces load for both of them and permits Google to have real-time updates of the whole kit-and-kaboodle rather than polling individual pages. Both Google and Reddit are better-off doing that, and for Google it’d make sense for any site that’s large-enough and valuable enough to warrant putting forth any effort special-case to that site.

      I know that Reddit built functionality for that before, used it for pushshift.io and I believe bots.

      I doubt that Google is actually using Googlebot on Reddit at all today.

      I would bet against either Google violating robots.txt or Reddit serving different robots.txt files to different clients (why? It’s just unnecessary complication).

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      Google is paying for the use of Reddit’s API, not for scraping the site.

      That’s the new Reddit’s business model: want “their” (users’) content, then pay for API access.