• huginn
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    4 hours ago

    These are arguments from a position of pure concept and theory, the realm that religion deals in.

    Pragmatic reality means that we’re never getting rid of religion because people will continue to perpetuate the abuses of the past into the future.

    That doesn’t make them bad people; they sincerely think they’re doing good.

    Nonetheless: their belief does not make what they’re doing good.

    My youth spent canvasing in favor of the bigotry of Prop 8 in California is not absolved because as a fundamentalist I believed it was the best thing for “the gays”.

    I’m sorry it makes you uncomfortable but the truth is that religion and the religious cause endless suffering on this world and they deserve to be called out.

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      2 hours ago

      Your experience is not universal. There are forms of religion very different from, and much less politically powerful than, American fundamentalism. It doesn’t make me uncomfortable to call out specific abusive forms of worship, I just don’t think that’s what you’re doing. You said you think all religions should end because none are worthy of existence. I think that’s a hateful thing to say. Lots of marginalized religious groups have been violently suppressed or had people attempt to wipe them out in some way. How dies repeating that argument help make the world better? Fight specifically against the actual group who hurt you. But don’t lump in millions of people you know nothing about and assume they are all exactly the same. The world is more complicated than that.

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        There is not a single thing that a religion does to help people that is irreplaceable with non-parasitic communal structures.

        What religion does beyond helping people is leech off of superstition and ignorance to control and coerce its adherents into its modes.

        If a religion is free of superstition it ceases to be a religion: requiring no faith.

        Cultural practices are beautiful and deserve preservation - religions are shackles that keep those marginalized people we care about enslaved to the past.

        Religion as a concept is evil.

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          1 hour ago

          So you traded one kind of nuance-less fundamentalism for another. That sounds comforting.