Transgender and genderfluid identities are different.
Hold up. No, that’s not correct. I am trans myself, and while I’m assuming it’s not your intent to do so but this is walking in to some toxic gatekeeping that is common in some communities. Not tying to call you out, but respectfully and politely, it’s a pretty big party foul to say a group is or isn’t trans.
“Trans” is an umbrella term in which transgender, transexual, non-binary, generfluid, demi boy/girl and Intersex people all fit under. None of these things are mutually exclusive. And conversely, it’s not a requirement either. Many intersex, fluid and non-binary people do not consider themselves trans, and that is 100% their right, but many do as well.
I’d prefer to let the nonbinary and gender non-conforming folks speak for themselves, and a majority of them do not consider themselves trans. I understand your concerns about potential transmed arguments that could be derived from this, but it’s a part of nb erasure that must be combated
and a majority of them do not consider themselves trans
And in my experience it’s the opposite. But either way we are going in to anecdotal territory which isn’t helpful. What’s important that we agree on is that non binary folk absolutely have the right to decide for themselves either way.
Concerns about erasure is valid, but the language matters as not to be exclusionary. There is value in saying NB, intersex and fluid are distinct identities, but not in saying they are mutually exclusive from or inherently “not trans”.
Hold up. No, that’s not correct. I am trans myself, and while I’m assuming it’s not your intent to do so but this is walking in to some toxic gatekeeping that is common in some communities. Not tying to call you out, but respectfully and politely, it’s a pretty big party foul to say a group is or isn’t trans.
“Trans” is an umbrella term in which transgender, transexual, non-binary, generfluid, demi boy/girl and Intersex people all fit under. None of these things are mutually exclusive. And conversely, it’s not a requirement either. Many intersex, fluid and non-binary people do not consider themselves trans, and that is 100% their right, but many do as well.
It’s entirely an individuals choice, and saying X isn’t “trans” only leads to exclusion and intercommunity bigotry.
I’d prefer to let the nonbinary and gender non-conforming folks speak for themselves, and a majority of them do not consider themselves trans. I understand your concerns about potential transmed arguments that could be derived from this, but it’s a part of nb erasure that must be combated
And in my experience it’s the opposite. But either way we are going in to anecdotal territory which isn’t helpful. What’s important that we agree on is that non binary folk absolutely have the right to decide for themselves either way.
Concerns about erasure is valid, but the language matters as not to be exclusionary. There is value in saying NB, intersex and fluid are distinct identities, but not in saying they are mutually exclusive from or inherently “not trans”.