These comics are cute but I also fucking hate them. Goth and punk subculture had been totally gentrified by online, especially goths. It’s like those Archie comic but epitaph level punk bs comics. It’s this cutesy fetishization thing that really doesn’t reflect anything but the fantasy of tumblr style people. Also it acts like there are grunge people around and like gothabilly is a thing.
Underground DIY punk has a weirdly good and long lasting international network that has allowed bands from Columbia, Chile, Mexico, the uk, Russia, Japan and numerous other very distant places to come play my backwater part of Canada because of a growing network that has developed since someone thought the clash signing to CBS made them sellouts. This parallels somewhat with international.solidarity but not as much as I’d like as a not anarchists and I’m.sure the punks would still agree. But it’s been here doing it’s own thing since the late 70s and only every had any attention from the mainstream in England in the 80s, the american hardcore circuit sorta criss crosses but can be it’s own thing at times. The early guys who didn’t get rich tend to still be on the more punk side of things and are genuinely still helping out, Ron Reyes, black flags second singer picked my friend up from the airport. This comes with the understanding that if you’re a punk you gotta pitch in, there’s no money so you gotta put up touring bands in your house and feed them balance pay what you can admissions with the real cost of fuel, it’s a whole thing thst a lot of people I know put their lives into for better or worse and I don’t want to see it flattened or commodified cause thst defeated the purpose. Punk belongs to the punks.
do “goth parties” exist for young people now, just like american “ren fairs” (where it’s 5% rennaisance, 5% viking, 10% medieval, 20% dr. who, 20% lotr, 40% steampunk etc), but with old subcultures that people have only seen on youtube, and they’re all equally ancient to kids now, so people decide to “go” as “grunge”, “psychobilly” “DC Hardcore” “new wave” and sho on
DC Hardcore? It’s that specific? I was acting like a first wave goth when my chemical romance was overtaking Marilyn Manson and thinking both were posers. I have been described by goths as ‘OH, you’re like, REALLY goth’ when I’ve talked about proto industrial and early noise music as well as German expressionist silent films and if I’m any subculture it’s crust punk but a lot of the same bands that influenced goth early on are the same. There is a history to all of this and it’s not great seeing it flattened into cute cartoons
idk, i was shitposting but i can imagine that for people born after say 2005, growing up in the post-subculture era, that subcultures from the 90s and earlier with their individual niches are mostly extinct since before they were born and only exist documented online, and so can be picked up and worn as a fandom costume just like a steampunk or jedi or vampire
Yes but there will no longer be diy punk if people don’t touch grass. It’s people in their ate 30s to 40s playing and organizing shows, 5hwrws been less and less kids and the ones that show up are there for a lark. Seeing if anyone new had a band going and if they want to book a show had been met with stares. Like, you are a group of 8. That’s 3 bands if one of you learns to drum! It’s kind of assumed and has worked that I’d you encourage the kids you see coming to shows and bring em in you get the next generation of people putting on shows and that interest just ain’t there no more. These shows are made possible by viewers like you, none of us have a two coins to rub together.
These comics are cute but I also fucking hate them. Goth and punk subculture had been totally gentrified by online, especially goths. It’s like those Archie comic but epitaph level punk bs comics. It’s this cutesy fetishization thing that really doesn’t reflect anything but the fantasy of tumblr style people. Also it acts like there are grunge people around and like gothabilly is a thing.
i just think they are cute
Underground DIY punk has a weirdly good and long lasting international network that has allowed bands from Columbia, Chile, Mexico, the uk, Russia, Japan and numerous other very distant places to come play my backwater part of Canada because of a growing network that has developed since someone thought the clash signing to CBS made them sellouts. This parallels somewhat with international.solidarity but not as much as I’d like as a not anarchists and I’m.sure the punks would still agree. But it’s been here doing it’s own thing since the late 70s and only every had any attention from the mainstream in England in the 80s, the american hardcore circuit sorta criss crosses but can be it’s own thing at times. The early guys who didn’t get rich tend to still be on the more punk side of things and are genuinely still helping out, Ron Reyes, black flags second singer picked my friend up from the airport. This comes with the understanding that if you’re a punk you gotta pitch in, there’s no money so you gotta put up touring bands in your house and feed them balance pay what you can admissions with the real cost of fuel, it’s a whole thing thst a lot of people I know put their lives into for better or worse and I don’t want to see it flattened or commodified cause thst defeated the purpose. Punk belongs to the punks.
do “goth parties” exist for young people now, just like american “ren fairs” (where it’s 5% rennaisance, 5% viking, 10% medieval, 20% dr. who, 20% lotr, 40% steampunk etc), but with old subcultures that people have only seen on youtube, and they’re all equally ancient to kids now, so people decide to “go” as “grunge”, “psychobilly” “DC Hardcore” “new wave” and sho on
DC Hardcore? It’s that specific? I was acting like a first wave goth when my chemical romance was overtaking Marilyn Manson and thinking both were posers. I have been described by goths as ‘OH, you’re like, REALLY goth’ when I’ve talked about proto industrial and early noise music as well as German expressionist silent films and if I’m any subculture it’s crust punk but a lot of the same bands that influenced goth early on are the same. There is a history to all of this and it’s not great seeing it flattened into cute cartoons
idk, i was shitposting but i can imagine that for people born after say 2005, growing up in the post-subculture era, that subcultures from the 90s and earlier with their individual niches are mostly extinct since before they were born and only exist documented online, and so can be picked up and worn as a fandom costume just like a steampunk or jedi or vampire
anyway i’m
i guess
Yes but there will no longer be diy punk if people don’t touch grass. It’s people in their ate 30s to 40s playing and organizing shows, 5hwrws been less and less kids and the ones that show up are there for a lark. Seeing if anyone new had a band going and if they want to book a show had been met with stares. Like, you are a group of 8. That’s 3 bands if one of you learns to drum! It’s kind of assumed and has worked that I’d you encourage the kids you see coming to shows and bring em in you get the next generation of people putting on shows and that interest just ain’t there no more. These shows are made possible by viewers like you, none of us have a two coins to rub together.
basedo