This is the most educational.
But what if it bites me and we both die?
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He is so confident that he might just be a troll. If he isn’t he is probably the greatest example of being confidently incorrect who I’ve seen posted here in a while.
My conspiracy is that a lot of people lived in a time where you could just browbeat people into submission over whether or not you were right, because who was going to go to the library just to prove you wrong?
But now people can learn anything at any time from the slate portal in their pocket, and I believe some people have a hard time relinquishing that control and superiority they had.
I really wondered that too! Not sure how anyone could actually be this obstinate in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Might very well be a troll lol
Nah. I know people like that. They just shut down and reject everything that doesn’t align with their world view. No point even arguing with them at that point, just let them live in their clown world.
You can sometimes have success by asking questions and getting them to elaborate and maybe find an inconsistency or error on their own. You need to enter their reality and help them tear it down from within and be aware that they might instead just kick you out of it (so if you really want to convince someone, you’ll have the most success if you can make it a pleasant experience they want to continue engaging with).
But this is a disagreement about terminology, which is purely decided by consensus or definitions, so it’s less likely to have some logic that can disprove it.
Sometimes, yes. But I have one guy in mind when I say this. He was a close friend 15 years ago, he was like this.
He’s still like this, and he’s not much of a friend anymore. There’s only so much patience you can give a person before you give up and move on.
Yeah, whether it’s worth the time and emotional energy to do that is a whole other question.
Never underestimate the limitlessness of human belligerence.
Determined ignorance is a force.
But did OP ever get their question answered?
Yes!
Here’s the original: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2508826689377424/posts/3531073097152773/
Buddy Lee Yates is still wrong and refuses to back down, lol
If I remember correctly yes, for the most part? I’ll have to check again and see
I’d like to observe, that although funny and drawing a lot of attention, this thread is wrong.
Spiders ARE poisonous. Plenty, if nost the most of them, really. By default we simply do not consider them food, but they are eaten in some parts of our world, nevertheless.
And yes, spiders, ar least some of them are venomous.
Omg that’s really interesting, I never would have guessed! Are the effects of the venom and the poison similar at all? I kinda had the intuition that venoms were generally at least kind of edible, probably just because snake venom is lol. Is it even the same chemicals between the two effects? Sorry, my mind is just blown, haha
Noprob, nature is weirder than we can assume.
There are many toxins and some might produce similar effects when ingested, to those that were injected into the bloodstream. Some among these are similar to alcohol poisoning, some might probably give you a drug-like bad trip, others might be fatal. What I’m trying to say is, that there are many variables involved and the result “might vary”.
Rule of thumb: do not eat spiders. 😉
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When cooking, remove the “head” and “butt”. This gets rid of the venom sacs and other, less desirable, bits.
If a spider is venomous, it is poisonous unless prepared properly.
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I already did, within this thread. Please browse it, it’s not long.
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Ok, let’s try this out:
I can’t provide you a source that you’d probably accept on the spot, since plenty of these, including scientific ones use terms “venomous” and “poisonous” interchangeably. I can direct you to the entry in Wikipedia, that lists mere 15 edible species of spiders, instead of saying “pretty much each and everyone is edible”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachnids_as_food#Spiders
Now, I assume you’re thinking “I can swallow a spider and it won’t kill me, therefore they can’t be considered poisonous”. This isn’t true. You CAN eat plenty of spiders and you will absolutely survive it. You may even not suffer much problems because of that, like stomach irritation, or diarrhea, but that’s because the poison they contain isn’t powerful enough to seriously harm you.
But do not take it as a green light to eat spiders. They are poisonous. They aren’t meant to be eaten. Especially since nobody in his sane mind entertains an idea of eating large quantities of them, much like a certain comic-book villain did.
Side note: an “interesting” thing may happen if you eat a venomous spider, while suffering from an open wound in your digestive system. I think there was an episode of “100 ways to die” dedicate to this idea. Or was it snake’s venom?
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I can’t help you, sorry.
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TIL about this difference, in my language poison and venom translates to the same word (poison)
Some spiders are poisonous, some are venomous…
I mean probably, I aint eating a bunch of venomous spiders to find out which ones are poisonous.
I ate roasted spiders.
Even if Brown Recluse spiders are poisonous, they are definitely ALSO venomous, and of the two traits it’s only the venom that’s ever going to be relevant right? I mean, who’s eating Brown Recluse spiders?
I mean, who’s eating Brown Recluse spiders?
Hungry, extravagant, rich, insane, children…
I assume you are being satirical… but it does bring up the question as to which ones would actually be poisonous (to a human?) Are there any, really?
I’m not making jokes.
The question was whether spiders are venomous or poisonous and the answer is that they might be both.
Why somebody would try to eat a spider is entirely different question and I provided some answers to that too…
But are they? Which spiders are poisonous to humans? I’m not saying they aren’t, but I have a gut feeling that most spider venom or anything else inside a spider potentially poisonous to a human wouldn’t survive the digestive tract. I could be totally wrong though.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachnids_as_food
Edit: here are more gory pictures yum yum: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachnophagy
Poisonous spiders release their toxins when they are inhaled, ingested or absorbed through the tissue or skin
People absorb spiders through their skin?!
Not quite, but yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urticating_hair
In addition, you may smack an insect that walks on your skin, thus smashing it to a pulp, that turns out to be toxic.
In addition, some wild tribes has been using small toxic animals, insects and alike to create liquid “juices”, they then poured on the arrows and tips of spears. It’s possible that even a skin-contact with such a substance may lead to unpleasant effects. I’d have to check the details, though.
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Are you saying that you don’t? You freak!
But who would be reddited enough to touch a spider?
Steve Irwin.
Is this a ‘who eats who’ lemma?
Venom is a type of poison. Poison doesn’t have to be eaten. (Eg. Contact poisons exist).
Venom is just a poison that is delivered through a bite or a sting.
