• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    1 month ago

    The only reason they want a popular vote system is because it would have worked in their favor in 2000 and 2016.

    The minute it goes against “their” candidate they’ll scream to go back to the electoral college.

    See the multi-state pact here:

    https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation

    Currently passed in 17 states for 209 electoral college votes, it doesn’t take effect until there are 270 accounted for.

    But do you really think the residents of a state like Oregon, or Washington, or California will just be OK with their electoral college votes being passed to a popular vote winner who is a Republican?

    Especially if that person failed to win their state?

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      1 month ago

      But do you really think the residents of a state like Oregon, or Washington, or California will just be OK with their electoral college votes being passed to a popular vote winner who is a Republican?

      Yes, because they won. People who favor democracy understand they won’t always be in the majority, and that’s OK bedause they aren’t shitbags. People who only want the system to work in their favor are called Conservatives.

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        1 month ago

        You have more faith than I do. If Oregonians thought their vote was overturned because of a national popular vote winner, there would be riots.

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          1 month ago

          Their vote wasn’t “overturned” their vote counted just as much as anyone else’s they just lost.

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            1 month ago

            Under the multi-state pact, if Oregon voted overwhelmingly for Harris, but Trump won the national popular vote, and our electoral college votes were delivered to Trump because of the popular vote, yeah, that would be overturning the will of Oregon voters and there would be riots.

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              1 month ago

              So when one town votes for trump and Harris wins the state the votes of that town are “overturned” by the state then?

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      1 month ago

      Is the suggestion here that the only people who support the electoral college are those who don’t want the president to represent the majority of the voting population?

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        No, the suggestion here is that the people supporting the popular vote are doing it because they got burned in 2000 and 2016.

        Had it gone the other way, they wouldn’t be agitating for it.

        If Trump somehow wins the popular vote, but loses the electoral college, WA, OR and CA will be THRILLED.

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          1 month ago

          Your suggestion is wrong. Eliminating the Electoral College is advocated for by everyone who supports Democracy. It is also not a coincidence that the Electoral College disproportionately benefits one party over the other. And to cement that advantage they employ anti-Democratic measures in an attempt at voter suppression.