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    I was also positively surprised how a lot of Reddit users on r/politics were way less deluded on election night and the day after, openly criticising the Dem party on class issues and Gaza.

    It got back to “normal” now, but I think they might have a second “genzedong situation” in the near future with dissatisfied users, though now there’s literal alternative websites like here and hexbear (and raddle I guess?) so they could just leave with greater ease.

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    Nah I’m good. Every single time I see the ghouliest take is a .worlder (although recently lemmy.ca users have been upping their competition for trash takes)

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      When the Reddit exodus occured, .world was set up to accept new users immediately, and skip the queue for approval on other instances. As a result all the toxic idiots nobody else wanted congregated there.

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      My guess would be a higher presence of communists means they had to pick a side. Once picked they had to keep defending it radicalizing them further and further.

      Reddit libs probably can’t spot a “tankie” as well as a lebens.raum user

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        So, they says they want change but, when presented with the possibility of supporting communism, they instead decide to become fascist to support the status quo.

        Historically checks out.

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          Yeah they’ve been inoculated against the red virus through constant propaganda.

          You don’t think Stalin was a monster on par with Hitler? Yeah friend I know your type having “nuanced” takes on guys like Hitler, gtfo Tankie.

          Everything you say will be filtered out by “this person excuses a mass murderer on par with Hitler!”

          And if it’s not Stalin there is some other thought terminating assumption taken for granted that you run up against. I mean what broke me out was people being friendly to me even though I had “christian” in my name. All my life people had pointed to the “persecution” of the church in the GDR as an example of what communists would do to me and my family. So I said “Hi” to the rabid redfash tankies on hexbear with this username on my lemm.ee account to troll them really and they were nice?? These people praise guys like Stalin who probably would’ve shot me himself why aren’t they all jumping me like I’ve seen them do around the fediverse thonk So I read around a bit and found a really nuanced good take on religion, a debunking of what Marx meant by “Opium for the masses” and suddenly everything I thought I knew had to be called into question.

          edited out me defaulting to man sry about that

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              Basically that religion is a huge part of the culture. The year of a lot of cultures revolves around major religious holidays, christmas, ramadan etc. It’s deeply ingrained into social dynamics, language and so on basically messing with it will cause a huge upset just from the magnitude of the impact it will have on peoples lives. Being part of a religious community is a big part of those peoples lives. Celebrating religious holidays a big affair with the whole family. Also could you imagine western economies without the christmas season? A lot of peoples livelihood depend directly on producing commodities for easter or christmas.

              It’s also not really something material you can control, people can choose to be religious and teach their kids accordingly no matter what. Where’s the boundary to organized religion?

              Add to that that it both gives comfort to a lot of people but also makes it hard for them to break with it on the threat of some form of punishment (like opium, dulls pain but once addicted its painful to suddenly stop taking it). I know I wouldn’t have survived my depression if not for religion.

              So a shock “therapy” banning religion as much as is possible will cause a huge pushback because it’s dear to a lot of laborers. It’s been used by the bourgeoisie yes, but very indirectly. You can point at how someone withholding the means of production needs to be made to relinquish it, but you have to look at the case of each clergyman individually in how much they collaborated with the capitalist class.

              I’m sure someone with a deeper understanding can explain it better but that was the opinion as I saw it and which got me intrigued.

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    I wonder what’s been going on in the 𝕏itter liberal pundit cinematic universe the last couple of days. I bet they’re all still on Musk’s fascist platform, the same Musk who bankrolled Trump’s victory. Fucking idiots.

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      There’s been quite a lot of fingerpointing, from what I could tell, from the parts of twitter I’m tapped into. A lot of people doing the voter blame game and then the occasional person with any sense trying to explain how absurd it is to be blaming voters for a process that is, well to use your terminology, bankrolled by billionaires.