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That kid with the stick isn’t helping. Gotta aim that thing higher.
That’s right, teach science! It’s under threat as well.
Seriously, that guy needs to raise his rod higher up between the gay rights into the back of the trans rights, or wedge it into the ground and post it up from behind. Maybe even think ahead, have the gay rights lean forward and create a type of A frame tower there he can use the rod for support
There are no gods to save us. We have to save ourselves. And that requires everyone working together. Including us and theists.
I am even happy to extend an olive branch to any evangelical that agrees to fight for progressive causes. They do exist believe it or not.
A motto of mine is “The universe doesn’t care, so we have to”.
Love seeing other versions of the same idea held by others.
We are the caring center of the universe.
That is similar to one of mine. “The Universe, and Life are fair. They are completely impassionate about their fairness.”
I throw that at any one that dares utter the phrase “life isn’t fair,” at anyone else in my earshot. Through 44 years of life it seems that those that like the phrase “Life isn’t fair,” are the very ones working as hard as they can to ensure it is unfair.
My retort for “life isn’t fair” is a lot shorter.
It is: “I know, doesn’t mean you can’t be”.
So often it’s used to excuse you getting screwed by someone. The universe may not be fair, but more often than not, when facing unfair bullshit, there’s a person/people you can actually slap behind it.
for real. folks, even if you’re atheist or agnostic, make a note right now of the religious institutions in your community with pride flags, progress flags, coexistence symbols, and palestine flags (assuming they’re not mosques, that will be a little trickier to get a read on, i’m not saying to hate a mosque with a palestine flag, it’s just not intrinsically a symbol of coexistence in that context). these are people who root their love of you in a different place than you root your love of humanity, but they still love you and want you to be alive on this earth. an imperfect coalition is better than a compromised one.
Palestine was in front before. Make of that what you will.
Gay…
Isn’t the idea of rights that they are endowed upon or imbued into each individual by some supernatural authority, like a god? I mean, aren’t rights metaphysical, in that they are not context dependent, and exist even outside of time and space itself? Like, the idea of inherent individual rights is that you can remove a person from any given time and place, move that individual to any other time and place, and their “rights” would follow with them, not unlike a soul.
It’s a type of social contract. In the traditionalist culture, being non-secular, they ascribed it to “God”, but, as you know, there is no God, so it was actually up to real people belonging to religious institutions, the clergy. Since the Enlightenment, people have tried to replace God with Nature; this has often been a bad joke with terrible consequences, but eventually secular paradigms took over and tried to reason the contracts into shape, to make them more consistent. There’s a lot of philosophy about this and I can’t summarize it as easily. But what you’re seeing today with Trump and the traditionalists, this anti-secularism, is a desire to return to the pre-Enlightenment state with its contracts and monarchy and aristocracy determined by “God”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_chain_of_being
unfortunately, those are dignities, not rights. rights are a legal contract between you and your governing body. rights are granted. dignities are the things that are intrinsically connected to your personhood, your humanity, or both.
So if your governing body decides you don’t have rights, then you don’t have those rights.
Edit: it seems like rights are only available to people who have enough power, money, and/or influence over the state to persuade the state to grant them the rights they desire.
That is generally how rights work, yes. But not how rights for people who believe in a humanist moral outlook think should work.
precisely. when we talk about who runs the government and how they should operate it, we are generally (i can’t speak for everyone) trying to navigate getting the rights the government grants us to align as perfectly as possible with the dignities we possess
Edit: it seems like rights are only available to people who have enough power, money, and/or influence over the state to persuade them to grant then the rights they desire.
unfortunately, yes. this understanding of what rights and dignities are is what fully converted me to anarchism/communism in college. since the government values greed over all other human forces, our rights will always be more restricted than our dignities. our only hope as common people with net worths south of 1 billion dollars is to resist every chance we get.
