Summary
Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum dismissed reports of a potential U.S. “soft invasion” to combat cartels as “entirely a movie,” emphasizing Mexico’s sovereignty as a free, independent nation.
The Rolling Stone report claims Donald Trump’s incoming administration is considering covert military operations in Mexico, including airstrikes and assassinations of cartel leaders.
While Trump and key officials like Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio support such measures, experts warn they could backfire by boosting cartel recruitment, undermining Mexican sovereignty, and fostering cartel-Mexican authority collaboration.
That’s up to Mexico to decide, gringo. Short your own shit first. Maybe end the stupidity of the war on drugs that caused the cartels to become economically powerful in the first place. Then let’s talk.
I think even if the US legalized all drugs today the cartels would still be in business. Human smuggling, human trafficking, extortion, kidnapping, and even avocados! The genie has been out of the bottle for a very long time.
Avocados tell you what the end game is. The cartels are going to use their money hordes to form corporations. Then they will buy out the government to take over Mexican sovereignty. That’s how the US “defeated” organized crime.
Flashbacks to the United Fruit Company… Wait, I don’t even have to go that far… Flashbacks to Chiquita Brands International.
Ending prohibition ended the reign of that generation of American gangsters though. Beyond that, I’m for a whole bunch of bleeding heart pinko policies. Open borders for example, a Pan-American Schengen.
You do realize cartels and human trafficking groups exist because there’s a high demand of that in the USA?
Yes. Unfortunately human trafficking doesn’t go away when you legalize prostitution. You still need to do a lot of police work to track down the traffickers and free the victims.
It becomes easier when you can go to the police and you don’t get thrown in jail for the job you were doing.
You’d be surprised at how much the traffickers can adapt to this. They keep their victims in a group, renting out hotel rooms, constantly moving from place to place. The victims never know where they are, not even what city they’re in. They don’t have any local contacts, no social network, no supports. They basically have to work up the courage to escape from men (whom they believe will kill them) and run to the police in a completely unfamiliar city with no help.
We’ve been working on that though, at least in blue states.
I think there’s value in having US troops stationed in Mexico to fight cartels and root out corruption as long as Mexico agrees to it. I understand that this isn’t what Trump is advocating for though.
If the Mexican government actually, freely requests it, that’s their right. The point is that the US should not do in Mexican territory anything the Mexican government does not specifically endorse.
This response right here is the statement that makes the border just get more and more violent. The US is just going to start pulling a Poland and kill anyone who attempts crossing-no questions asked-unless mexico taskes some actual action against the Sinaloa and gulf cartels.
So far all they do is get in bed with them and let the problem spiral to the point where they don’t have to acknowledge law enforcement.
So call names and be racist all you want, this shit will happen regardless of what Mexico ‘wants’. They’re not powerful enough to get a say, that’s just the way it is.
So basically, the melian dialogue, might makes right, that’s where we’re at, right? Go ahead, treat the rest of the hemisphere as your private fiefdom, and then be surprised about antiamericanism. Look at the way you’re talking. It’s like the 19th fucking century all over again. “Racist”? What the fuck man. You got offended by “gringo”?! Really?! You’re talking like a United Fruit Company exec and you’re calling me a racist? You put “wants” in quotation marks and you call me a racist? As if what, Mexico is not a real country, right? They don’t get a say, right? Angloamericans know best. The rest are just pretend countries. I’m Canadian and even I vomit a bit with the imperialist attitudes being expressed in this thread, and your feefees got hurt by the word gringo? Tabarnak des maudits esti d’americains, calisse de caves.
Skepticism-deprived people — eager to believe and spread obvious untruths like what you’ve posted — are the biggest danger America faces.
In case you do, here’s a list of dozens of politicians murdered in cold blood this year: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_politicians_killed_during_the_2024_Mexican_elections
Now when you say “sort your own shit first”, you don’t mean politician murders, correct? Because that seems sorted.
And the Americans walking in and waving their dicks around will solve everything, right?
You guys never learn, do you?
“but if you compare this very specific area, we don’t have a problem!”
You wanna talk about all those dead politicians or no?
Yeah, all of them were killed with U.S. weapons funded by U.S. money. We need to get our shit together and stop hurting our neighbors.
And if people have questions what I mean, I’ve said it before, if you want to make America great, it is made up of ~35 countries, independent. Working trade deals, cutting funding from militant or criminal groups such as the cartels everyone brings up and forcing them to economically suffer while supporting our neighbors by redirecting outsourced jobs that are going half way around the world to China to our neighbors in South America. A great example have said before is farming fish. We farm fish in the U.S. ship them to China for packaging and then all the way back to the U.S. for sale. That is a huge hit on the environment and an opportunity to bring jobs to markets and strengthen them in much closer regions. Assist in stabilizing the currencies and economies for our neighbors and we stop any such border crisis. Otherwise we pay an indefinite extremely high cost that prolongs suffering for both us and them. If you want America to be great, start with us earning the respect of those around us and becoming the ally they want to support, not out of fear but out of that respect. Those trade deals allow those countries to stabilize inflation, get control on crime, and become better places to live for their populations. That means stability and no reason to leave their culture behind and flee into a dangerous world of hate many people have fostered. Kill hate with responsible kindness.
Welp, I’m drunk