Oh, the extreme submissiveness of those who chose to blame for an electoral loss the millions who did not vote for the Leaders who refused to move an inch towards the interests of those voters rather than blaming the handful of Leaders for not moving an inch towards the interests of millions of otherwise natural voters (in fact, they even moved away).
It takes quite a “the boss is always right” butt-kissing boot-liking mindset to blame millions for not following an asshole rather than blaming “the boss” for being an asshole.
One of the most eye-openning discoveries here on Lemmy during this whole Electoral Process in the US is just how many of the “centrists” in America have interiorized a quite extreme level of unchallenging subservience to those they believe are their leaders.
You’re an idiot. Again, the democrats didn’t offer a pony, so dumbasses chose fascism. They chose not to participate in this election, and now there will be no more elections.
They really stuck it to the Democrat leaders though, right? Millions of people will have to suffer and die because people decided to throw a tantrum instead of stopping fascism.
That submissiviness is so deeply engrained that still now you can’t criticize the handful of people at the top of only Party with a chance to defeat Trump who by a gigantic margin had the most power out of everybody in the whole damn country to sway the election and “Stop Trump” (as they demanded from others and their useful idiots parroted) and who refused to move an inch on it, and instead you persist on blaming the plebes with their 1-in-240,000,000 voting “power” who did not suitably grovel and supported your Party’s Royalty whilst they treated them worse than trash.
I’ve seen more realistic and hard nosed takes on the relation between the people and their leaders involving actual Royalty, than that “it’s all the faults of the plebes” propaganda you and your fellow arse-kissers keep repeating.
But, hey, you keep on licking that boot. Yummy yummy.
You relentlessly and repeatedly persist in voicing criticism for the choices of the near-powerless whilst staying silent on the choices of the powerful.
This is to the point that when confronted with it you claim that you never dismissed the blame of the powerful, immediatelly followed by once again NOT blaming the powerfull and instead throw even more insults towards the near-powerless that didn’t suitably support those very same powerful people (whom you have so far, already 3 posts down, not criticized) who didn’t even try to appeal to them.
The nicest possible interpretation of your mindless repeating of that mantra even whilst claiming you’re not doing it, is that all that shoe polish you must have ingested has affected your brain.
The voters weren’t near powerless (they are now, though). In fact, they had all of the power. They were literally the last defense we had against fascism, and 1/3 of them chose to not stop it because the democrats ran a bad campaign.
The Democrat leadership was irrelevant at election time. The choice was between the status quo and fascism. There’s no nuance. Because guess what? The Democrat leadership is now completely irrelevant because you can’t vote out fascism.
If you didn’t vote against fascism, you are complicit in it happening.
And I am blaming the powerful. The reason I didn’t focus on that is because you already blame the powerful, but you’re trying to excuse the voters who absolutely share culpability, which is why I focused on them.
1 in 244,000,000 votes in an electoral system so bad only 2 choices, ever, are viable, is damn near powerless, barely above being a common citizen in an autocratic dictatorship.
The Democratic Party leadership are veritable Gods in terms of the power they have in comparison with the poor sods you, like some kind of windup flag waving muppet, are raging against as enablers of Fascism and idiots.
If as you try to claim your Rage was truly against those who made choices that led to a Trump victory and Fascism in America, and thus fairly approportioning blame by taking in account each person’s ability to stop Trump and their refusal to do so (especially those who dishonestly shouted that their greatest priority was to “Stop Trump!” and then went and put other priorities above that), this raging you’ve shown here against the riff-raff for not at all voting (not even for voting Trump, but for just not voting) would have an equivalent rage against DNC member so huge that you would have your bloody own nuclear program just so that you could nuke their offices and homes, so great was their power to make sure Trump was Stopped and so little were they willing to concede to make it happen, often acting in ways that actually boosted Trump’s chances.
After Trump himself and the Republicans, the by far bigger contributors to a Trump victory and Fascism in America were the top Democrat politicians who, to get all that sweet AIPAC and corporate dosh, actively chose to deny the wishes of so many voters that their candidate lost against a known giant bullshitter and convicted criminal like Trump even after Trump’s disgraceful first term.
The people you here - following EXACTLY the propaganda line straight out of the DNC on justifying their incredible, disgraceful loss - are raging against like a madman, those who simply did not vote, are dead last in the blame list, and whilst not blameless they’re a long, long distance from people who had far more power than them.
Even better, YOU and people like you who have loudly and mindlessly like good little muppets supported the Democrat Party Leadership no matter what they did, by helping convince those powerful people that they had enough useful idiots to win the election no matter how little they listened to voters, have more blame than non-voters for Fascism in America: for at least a year I’ve seen you muppets here in Lemmy supporting the DNC’s strategy of “Don’t do shit to address voter concerns and try instead to scare voters into voting for us whilst doing the opposite of what they want”, an extraordinarily bad and risky strategy whose choice as the Democrat Party Presidential Campaign Strategy can only be explained by the DNC members wanting to keep getting money from the AIPAC and fat-cat business interests, and a strategy which failed miserably, an outcome which was from the very start highly likely, so bad is that strategy.
Though supporting an incredibly bad electoral strategy against Trump whose only upside was personal upside maximization for those people leading the Democrat Party, you mindless tribalist muppets have much more blame for Fascism in America that any non-voters and, even better, in the very same way as Trump-supporting muppets, you lack the intelligence and self-awareness to see it and in a good old Hard Right tradition chose to blame the least powerful of all people.
I think I’ve figured out what’s wrong with people like you. You have no concept of prioritization.
If someone throws a Molotov cocktail through your window, fixing the window first is stupid.
The broken window is absolutely a problem that needs to be dealt with, but the house is currently on fire, so the window needs to wait until that’s addressed. You can never fix the window if the house burns down.
Every battle has a time and place, and this was not the time or place to try to force Democrat leadership to change.
I hated the fact that Biden ran in 2020. I hate the fact that he ran again in 2024. I hated that we didn’t get to have a primary and got stuck with Kamala. I hated that the DNC supported Israel. I hated how they shifted right to try to court semi sane republicans.
But I hated fascism more and sucked it up and defied it.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night, but you made the wrong decision and people will suffer because of it.
Oh, the extreme submissiveness of those who chose to blame for an electoral loss the millions who did not vote for the Leaders who refused to move an inch towards the interests of those voters rather than blaming the handful of Leaders for not moving an inch towards the interests of millions of otherwise natural voters (in fact, they even moved away).
It takes quite a “the boss is always right” butt-kissing boot-liking mindset to blame millions for not following an asshole rather than blaming “the boss” for being an asshole.
One of the most eye-openning discoveries here on Lemmy during this whole Electoral Process in the US is just how many of the “centrists” in America have interiorized a quite extreme level of unchallenging subservience to those they believe are their leaders.
You’re an idiot. Again, the democrats didn’t offer a pony, so dumbasses chose fascism. They chose not to participate in this election, and now there will be no more elections.
They really stuck it to the Democrat leaders though, right? Millions of people will have to suffer and die because people decided to throw a tantrum instead of stopping fascism.
That submissiviness is so deeply engrained that still now you can’t criticize the handful of people at the top of only Party with a chance to defeat Trump who by a gigantic margin had the most power out of everybody in the whole damn country to sway the election and “Stop Trump” (as they demanded from others and their useful idiots parroted) and who refused to move an inch on it, and instead you persist on blaming the plebes with their 1-in-240,000,000 voting “power” who did not suitably grovel and supported your Party’s Royalty whilst they treated them worse than trash.
I’ve seen more realistic and hard nosed takes on the relation between the people and their leaders involving actual Royalty, than that “it’s all the faults of the plebes” propaganda you and your fellow arse-kissers keep repeating.
But, hey, you keep on licking that boot. Yummy yummy.
Did I ever say the democrats weren’t to blame for the situation? Both democrats and idiots who stayed home are to blame.
Stop trying to justify letting fascism happen.
You relentlessly and repeatedly persist in voicing criticism for the choices of the near-powerless whilst staying silent on the choices of the powerful.
This is to the point that when confronted with it you claim that you never dismissed the blame of the powerful, immediatelly followed by once again NOT blaming the powerfull and instead throw even more insults towards the near-powerless that didn’t suitably support those very same powerful people (whom you have so far, already 3 posts down, not criticized) who didn’t even try to appeal to them.
The nicest possible interpretation of your mindless repeating of that mantra even whilst claiming you’re not doing it, is that all that shoe polish you must have ingested has affected your brain.
The voters weren’t near powerless (they are now, though). In fact, they had all of the power. They were literally the last defense we had against fascism, and 1/3 of them chose to not stop it because the democrats ran a bad campaign.
The Democrat leadership was irrelevant at election time. The choice was between the status quo and fascism. There’s no nuance. Because guess what? The Democrat leadership is now completely irrelevant because you can’t vote out fascism.
If you didn’t vote against fascism, you are complicit in it happening.
And I am blaming the powerful. The reason I didn’t focus on that is because you already blame the powerful, but you’re trying to excuse the voters who absolutely share culpability, which is why I focused on them.
1 in 244,000,000 votes in an electoral system so bad only 2 choices, ever, are viable, is damn near powerless, barely above being a common citizen in an autocratic dictatorship.
The Democratic Party leadership are veritable Gods in terms of the power they have in comparison with the poor sods you, like some kind of windup flag waving muppet, are raging against as enablers of Fascism and idiots.
If as you try to claim your Rage was truly against those who made choices that led to a Trump victory and Fascism in America, and thus fairly approportioning blame by taking in account each person’s ability to stop Trump and their refusal to do so (especially those who dishonestly shouted that their greatest priority was to “Stop Trump!” and then went and put other priorities above that), this raging you’ve shown here against the riff-raff for not at all voting (not even for voting Trump, but for just not voting) would have an equivalent rage against DNC member so huge that you would have your bloody own nuclear program just so that you could nuke their offices and homes, so great was their power to make sure Trump was Stopped and so little were they willing to concede to make it happen, often acting in ways that actually boosted Trump’s chances.
After Trump himself and the Republicans, the by far bigger contributors to a Trump victory and Fascism in America were the top Democrat politicians who, to get all that sweet AIPAC and corporate dosh, actively chose to deny the wishes of so many voters that their candidate lost against a known giant bullshitter and convicted criminal like Trump even after Trump’s disgraceful first term.
The people you here - following EXACTLY the propaganda line straight out of the DNC on justifying their incredible, disgraceful loss - are raging against like a madman, those who simply did not vote, are dead last in the blame list, and whilst not blameless they’re a long, long distance from people who had far more power than them.
Even better, YOU and people like you who have loudly and mindlessly like good little muppets supported the Democrat Party Leadership no matter what they did, by helping convince those powerful people that they had enough useful idiots to win the election no matter how little they listened to voters, have more blame than non-voters for Fascism in America: for at least a year I’ve seen you muppets here in Lemmy supporting the DNC’s strategy of “Don’t do shit to address voter concerns and try instead to scare voters into voting for us whilst doing the opposite of what they want”, an extraordinarily bad and risky strategy whose choice as the Democrat Party Presidential Campaign Strategy can only be explained by the DNC members wanting to keep getting money from the AIPAC and fat-cat business interests, and a strategy which failed miserably, an outcome which was from the very start highly likely, so bad is that strategy.
Though supporting an incredibly bad electoral strategy against Trump whose only upside was personal upside maximization for those people leading the Democrat Party, you mindless tribalist muppets have much more blame for Fascism in America that any non-voters and, even better, in the very same way as Trump-supporting muppets, you lack the intelligence and self-awareness to see it and in a good old Hard Right tradition chose to blame the least powerful of all people.
I think I’ve figured out what’s wrong with people like you. You have no concept of prioritization.
If someone throws a Molotov cocktail through your window, fixing the window first is stupid.
The broken window is absolutely a problem that needs to be dealt with, but the house is currently on fire, so the window needs to wait until that’s addressed. You can never fix the window if the house burns down.
Every battle has a time and place, and this was not the time or place to try to force Democrat leadership to change.
I hated the fact that Biden ran in 2020. I hate the fact that he ran again in 2024. I hated that we didn’t get to have a primary and got stuck with Kamala. I hated that the DNC supported Israel. I hated how they shifted right to try to court semi sane republicans.
But I hated fascism more and sucked it up and defied it.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night, but you made the wrong decision and people will suffer because of it.