By Yasmine El-Sabawi in Washington
Published date: 5 February 2025 02:09 GMT

"On Tuesday, at a stunning joint press conference alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Trump announced the US will be taking over and running Gaza, potentially for the foreseeable future.

“Everybody I’ve spoken to loves the idea of the United States owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs with something that will be magnificent,” Trump told reporters after a three-hour meeting with Netanyahu. "

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    8 hours ago

    No, the Zionist propaganda that convinced you both sides are the same.

    All those things are horrific, but there’s always something worse.

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      Seems like Democrats could have articulated that rather than spend a year telling their own base to fuck off when their base told them committing to genocide wasn’t a good idea electorally.

      https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/8/17/uncommitted-delegates-bring-gaza-war-message-to-democratic-convention

      https://www.npr.org/2024/08/24/nx-s1-5086924/the-dnc-didnt-let-a-palestinian-american-speak-the-uncommitted-movement-took-note

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          Tankie disinfo outlets like respected investigative journalism outlet ProPublica?

          Several attendees at the November meeting — officials who help lead the State Department’s efforts to promote racial equity, religious freedom and other high-minded principles of democracy — said the United States’ international credibility had been severely damaged by Biden’s unstinting support of Israel. If there was ever a time to hold Israel accountable, one ambassador at the meeting told Tom Sullivan, the State Department’s counselor and a senior policy adviser to Blinken, it was now.

          But the decision had already been made. Sullivan said the deadline would likely pass without action and Biden would continue sending shipments of bombs uninterrupted, according to two people who were in the meeting.

          Those in the room deflated. “Don’t our law, policy and morals demand it?” an attendee told me later, reflecting on the decision to once again capitulate. “What is the rationale of this approach? There is no explanation they can articulate.”

          Soon after, when the 30-day deadline was up, Blinken made it official and said that Israelis had begun implementing most of the steps he had laid out in his letter — all thanks to the pressure the U.S. had applied.

          That choice was immediately called into question. On Nov. 14, a U.N. committee said that Israel’s methods in Gaza, including its use of starvation as a weapon, was “consistent with genocide.” Amnesty International went further and concluded a genocide was underway. The International Criminal Court also issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his former defense minister for the war crime of deliberately starving civilians, among other allegations. (The U.S. and Israeli governments have rejected the genocide determination as well as the warrants.)

          https://www.propublica.org/article/biden-blinken-state-department-israel-gaza-human-rights-horrors

          Tankie disinfo outlets like NPR?

          https://www.npr.org/2024/08/24/nx-s1-5086924/the-dnc-didnt-let-a-palestinian-american-speak-the-uncommitted-movement-took-note

          Tankie disinfo outlets like The Nation?

          The White House routinely makes mutually exclusive statements about its desire to “end the war,” while saying Hamas could “have no role in postwar Gaza.” Yet no mainstream reporter, editor, or opinion writer bothers to reconcile this contradiction. This calculated vagueness is central to why Israel is permitted to continue bombing and killing at will for an indefinite amount of time. How can US officials simultaneously push for an “immediate, lasting ceasefire” while, at the same time, saying the other warring party must be completely defeated before they can support a lasting ceasefire?

          This isn’t a call for a ceasefire—it’s a call for, in Netanyahu’s phrasing, “total victory.” The pairing of these two mutually exclusive phrases can only mean one thing: In common usage from the White House and its friendly media, “pushing for a ceasefire” means “continuing to bomb and besiege Gaza while reiterating terms of surrender.”

          One linguistic trick that permitted this contradiction to go unchallenged is the sleight-of-hand in what the White House means by “ceasefire.” In some contexts, it means the term as it has been used by the Israelis, namely by Netanyahu: a temporary pause in fighting to facilitate hostage exchanges, followed by a continuation of the military campaign whose goal, ostensibly, is to “eliminate Hamas.” But this is explicitly not an effort to “end the war” as Netanyahu made clear repeatedly throughout the conflict.

          The White House’s demand to “end the war,” increasingly popular since the summer of 2024, is just a reiteration of surrender terms. The State Department banned its staff from even using the word “ceasefire” for the first few months of the conflict. But in late February 2024, on the eve of a Michigan primary that was embarrassing then-candidate Biden, the White House, as we noted in The Nation at the time, pivoted to embracing the term. But the Biden administration changed its definition to mean (1) hostage negotiations, but with a firm commitment to continue the “war” once Israeli hostages were freed, and (2) a reiteration of surrender demands, sometimes using both definitions simultaneously.

          The concepts of “ceasefire” and “push to the end the war” became, like the “peace process,” a ill-defined, open-ended process for process’s sake that US officials could point to in order to frame themselves not as participants in an brutal, largely one-sided siege and bombing campaign but a third party desperately trying—but perpetually failing—to achieve “peace.”

          https://www.thenation.com/article/society/us-media-gaza-bias-reporting-genres/

          It’s really wild how liberals bury their head in the sand and pretend any criticism of Democrats is by definition illlegitimate by virtue of criticising Democrats. You are literally no different than “fake news” Trump stans, but somehow even more moronic with “tankie disinfo outlets”. Grow the fuck up.

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            Brother I am not reading that it is not relevant to my point, and I’m not a liberal. Anarchist and not American.

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              Brother I am not reading

              lmfao I can tell. Although this bit was redundant from the beginning considering your responses doing the “partisan Democrat spends their time trying to vote shame people online rather than do anything productive like maybe supporting the uncommitted movement 8 months ago to force a change in policy on Democrats doing genocide”.

              and I’m not a liberal. Anarchist

              lmfao anarchist but fixated on pathetically vote shaming people online months after the election and referring to any criticism of Democrats as “tankie disinfo outlets”.

              Sound about right.

              Brother I am not reading that it is not relevant to my point,

              It’s literally directly relevant.

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                Yes an actual leftist not a useful idiot for conservatives. Soak it in.

                It’s not relevant, explain simply why any of what you posted means letting Trump get in was the better choice.

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                  Yes an actual leftist not a useful idiot for conservatives. Take it in.

                  lmao yet you are a useful idiot for defending a party that committed itself to genocide by wasting your time online voter shaming.

                  It’s not relevant, explain simply why any of what you posted means letting Trump get in was the better choice.

                  The part where it was Democratic campaigners and politicians who decided risking letting Trump in was the better choice than breaking from endorsing and materially aiding genocide, despite a year of repeated warnings at every level, from the State Department to the voter base campaigning for a change in policy?