• Mojave@lemmy.world
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    Killing people in power who are overly greedy is a tradition, it’s how civilizations advance! It doesn’t matter if they are unarmed or not if they are destroying the lives of the people below them

    It’s been America’s M.O. since the the '40s. Kill fascists in Germany and Japan, kill communists in Korea and Vietnam, kill the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, kill anyone who sounds like they rule with an iron fist. Deliver freedom to people! It’s the most patriotic thing you can do: Kill people in power

    Why should that time-honored tradition start for us overseas? Why not bring that tradition home?

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      There’s a lot of irrelevant apologism going on here (from which I will take that, deep down, you probably feel a little guilty about excusing cold-blooded murder - which at least proves that you’re human). To respond to just the first point: no, chaos and vigilantism are not the only way that “civilizations advance”. Some of the most advanced civilizations (let’s say: Switzerland, Japan, even Britain) have managed to reform incrementally, without the need for the bloody revolution you are advocating. Recourse to lawless chaos (France 1793, America soon apparently) is a sign that one’s civilization is a failure not that it’s “advancing”.

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        Some of the most advanced civilizations (let’s say: Switzerland, Japan, even Britain) have managed to reform incrementally,

        You might want to read up on Japan pre-WW2. They reformed from looting and razing other countries and having a self-professed rape problem due to getting trounced.

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          Irrelevant. Japan’s civilization was already “advanced” and the reforms were entirely peaceful. Unless you’re advocating for foreign wars of conquest as a solution to America’s feckless inability to get itself universal healthcare?