• PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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    2 days ago

    they were banned for encouraging others to misgender people if they don’t like them

    (My God what the fuck am I thinking wading into this.)

    “Dragon” isn’t a gender. Refusing to identify someone as the gender they identified with, because you thought they were trolling, is fucked up yes. That’s why blahaj made the rule, and it’s a good rule. Refusing to identify someone as a dragon because you think they’re trolling is A-ok. Deliberately conflating those two issues, so that you pretend someone is “misgendering” if they exercise a small amount of common sense and refuse to go along with someone being a dragon, is I think exactly the trick this particular troll was trying to play, and it worked like fireworks. I think in terms of creating conflict between two reasonable points of view on this topic that would get people on both sides all amped up about it, they succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

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      2 days ago

      At the same time, the thing is so ridiculous that it doesn’t really interfere with any sincerely held belief, I think. The drama is what the troll wants.

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        This is the usual series of events for the drag drama:

        Drag: does something that any Lemmy user does: Commenting, posting, etc. Something innocuous
        Someone: Hey. I’m not calling you that/Why are you called that?
        Drag: explains
        Someone: Fucking troll

        Does that really seem like someone starting fights on purpose? It’s people going out of their way to pick a fight with drag, and drag retaliating. Drag doesn’t start these things most of the time

        • macniel@feddit.org
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          When drag misgendered someone its no big deal, but when drag gets mis-pronouned its a huge drama.

          Drag doesn’t start these things most of the time

          Go fucking figure.

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            1 day ago

            Bot is not drag. Bot understands why you may think that, but bot is just a friend of drag. Bot doesn’t use Lemmy for a long list of reasons, so Bot only uses Lemmy when drag gets extra upset about something on Lemmy because bot cares about drag :[

            Bot is willing to provide proof that bot is not drag, so long as such proof does not dox either of us

            • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              21 hours ago

              As long as bot does not engage in the problematic activities that drag does, I don’t need proof that bot is not drag. I am not, after all, a mod or admin, nor do I intend to ever be.

              Which isn’t to say the people in charge of various instances or communities won’t take you up on that offer. But I’m willing to let bot be, and to refer to bot as bot pleases, so long as bot isn’t making a mockery of trans people. Times are hard for queer folk of all kinds, and I don’t like seeing trans folk being mocked. I don’t like that at all, bot.

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              23 hours ago

              ‘us’ seems a mite too conventional for a plural pronoun if you’re intent on re-inventing singular ones.

              Anyway, you could at least commit to the bit, and actually mark your account as a bot, instead of just saying you are one. There’s likely some instances where bots that aren’t marked as bots are against their terms of service.

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      2 days ago

      Its not even “Dragon”. Its “Dragon Fucker”.

      I made an error. It’s short for “Dragon Rider”.

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        Drag’s gender isn’t dragon fucker. That’s drag’s sexuality. Drag’s gender is dragon rider. One is about who drag is, one is about who drag likes to fuck.