• SCB@lemmy.world
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    We do. Principal investors are often listed as cofounders in startups, if they take a significant role in company operations from early in the company lifespan

    https://foundersnetwork.com/blog/founder-vs-cofounder/

    Cofounder isn’t a title. It’s a role.

    I know this gets in the way of easy dunking, but reality is often disappointing.

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      The status of “founder” or “co-founder” denotes a historical fact about who was responsible for creating the business. As such, these are permanent titles that can’t be revoked later on.

      Titles. From your own article 😂

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        Yes and if you read the article, you learn why someone could be made co-founder by actually getting the business moving.

        If I start a business today, I don’t actually have to do anything except pay for a business license, and a co-founder could be the person who helps me get it off the ground.

        This isn’t some obscure “gotcha” thing. There’s a reason he won his decision. Do you not realize you’re literally arguing against reality?

        It’s weird as fuck because you could not manufacture a target as easy to make fun of as Musk, except possibly Trump himself. There’s already plenty, so you don’t need to make up new shit.

        Everything the dude has done in like the last 5 years is just prime meme material, so idk why people keep reaching for this nonsensical shit.

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            Every claim in this sentence is false.

            Consider not using strong language like “always.” A bank giving you a business loan does not claim to be innovative, and is not exploiting you.

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              You can stop telling people you don’t know what you’re talking about now, everyone gets the point.

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                  Wrestle with a pig and you just both end up covered in shit…

                  Mentioning a pig smells like shit as continue walking past, and you wont get any shit on you.

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                I’m one of few people that are both talking sense and bringing receipts.

                Sorry the real world isn’t the world crafted for you by memes.

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          I appreciate the information provided but It’s basically an honorary title that can be purchased. If you’re in the business world maybe that title holds some water but for common language purposes, people don’t consider a cofounder as someone who finances a company a year after it’s founded.

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      Ok but the Wikipedia for Tesla’s history says that musk specifically did not take a role in company operations, he was just hypercritical of design.

      So technically he shouldn’t be a co founder, he didn’t fill that role.

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        No, technically, he shouldn’t be listed as COO, which he is not.

        I’d recommend looking into the responsibilities of various senior leadership (SVP to C-suite). A CEO, for instance, is largely responsible for fundraising, strategic acquisition planning, and board/investor relations instead of operations (which is a COO’s position).