You read that right. In a staggering move, Electronic Arts (yes, that Electronic Arts) has released the full source code for C&C Tiberium Dawn, C&C Red Alert, C&C Renegate, and C&C ...
Hah. Holy crap, who goes “you’re going to give me attitude?” in an online conversation? That’s amazing. Are you going to tell me to meet you after class?
I am not defending them. It’s not an “attack” and “defense” thing. They did a thing. The thing is cool. I noted that they often don’t get credit when they do cool things because they are a very satisfying punching bag (ditto for Ubisoft, Activision and Microsoft in general, incidentally).
That’s not a defense. It barely counts as backhanded compliment. It’s just an acknowledgement that companies aren’t people and they very rarely have a personality, so it’s a bad idea to assign them one.
For the record, releasing a patent isn’t open source, but they HAVE released code for some of these application as open source. And some C&C games, which is of course what the original post is about. Which is a distinction that is entirely irrelevant but you made me look it up anyway. Because, as I said, your willingness to sacrifice factuality for the sake of enforcing your antropomorphization of these guys as your archnemesis has the side effect of making me defensive about your claims. If that is attitude it’s one I’m fine with having, here and behind the gym.
Hell, if you’re going to pick an archnemesis at least make it a social media company. Those guys are doing actual damage. Game companies just aren’t relevant enough to get riled up about.
I didn’t. I am not. It is what it is. It’s not even that convoluted, they’ve listed this stuff. You’ve been factually wrong about a bunch of these things. Like, not even the “look it up” things, the list of things in the link you are reacting to. You’re taking my pondering why people can’t parse even the slightest ambiguity on their projections on brands and companies as a rude slight. Which is… increasingly on brand, I suppose.
Well, you are being quite belittling and passive agressive, I don’t think my brand comes into it.
In any case, what you describe as cool open source tools are literally just a paragraph and some screenshot for the most part and only really benefit their legal team. This isn’t anything praise worthy.
It seems we both have been factually wrong, except I’m the only one that has admitted to it and clarified my points to move the conversation. I also believe your overall message is wrong but on a deeper level.
Try pondering about what’s being talked about. You also don’t need to slip in a paragraph of your angst every comment.
I only know of fonttik and iris but neither of those are in the patent pledge. Those were actually open sourced, so Im guessing there isnt much need for it, but everything since has gone through lawyers from what I know.
I’ll admit though, I haven’t read through all their patents. I’ll be happy to be proved wrong.
Hah. Holy crap, who goes “you’re going to give me attitude?” in an online conversation? That’s amazing. Are you going to tell me to meet you after class?
I am not defending them. It’s not an “attack” and “defense” thing. They did a thing. The thing is cool. I noted that they often don’t get credit when they do cool things because they are a very satisfying punching bag (ditto for Ubisoft, Activision and Microsoft in general, incidentally).
That’s not a defense. It barely counts as backhanded compliment. It’s just an acknowledgement that companies aren’t people and they very rarely have a personality, so it’s a bad idea to assign them one.
For the record, releasing a patent isn’t open source, but they HAVE released code for some of these application as open source. And some C&C games, which is of course what the original post is about. Which is a distinction that is entirely irrelevant but you made me look it up anyway. Because, as I said, your willingness to sacrifice factuality for the sake of enforcing your antropomorphization of these guys as your archnemesis has the side effect of making me defensive about your claims. If that is attitude it’s one I’m fine with having, here and behind the gym.
Hell, if you’re going to pick an archnemesis at least make it a social media company. Those guys are doing actual damage. Game companies just aren’t relevant enough to get riled up about.
You are misrepresented it, that’s all.
I’m just informing you of what it really is and how it isn’t as altruistic as it seems.
If you can’t respond without being rude, you can just choose not to interact.
I didn’t. I am not. It is what it is. It’s not even that convoluted, they’ve listed this stuff. You’ve been factually wrong about a bunch of these things. Like, not even the “look it up” things, the list of things in the link you are reacting to. You’re taking my pondering why people can’t parse even the slightest ambiguity on their projections on brands and companies as a rude slight. Which is… increasingly on brand, I suppose.
Well, you are being quite belittling and passive agressive, I don’t think my brand comes into it.
In any case, what you describe as cool open source tools are literally just a paragraph and some screenshot for the most part and only really benefit their legal team. This isn’t anything praise worthy.
It seems we both have been factually wrong, except I’m the only one that has admitted to it and clarified my points to move the conversation. I also believe your overall message is wrong but on a deeper level.
Try pondering about what’s being talked about. You also don’t need to slip in a paragraph of your angst every comment.
No, there are actual pieces of software they’ve released alongside the patents. It’s a thing. Look it up.
You can’t really bothsides this, that’s not how this works.
I guess on one thing you were right, which is that we can choose to not interact.
I only know of fonttik and iris but neither of those are in the patent pledge. Those were actually open sourced, so Im guessing there isnt much need for it, but everything since has gone through lawyers from what I know.
I’ll admit though, I haven’t read through all their patents. I’ll be happy to be proved wrong.