Summary
Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.
Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.
During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.
The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”
The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.
They really have you all wrapped around their fingers, don’t they? Your democracy is literally on fire around you and the best both ”sides” can do is bicker whose fault it is.
Funny how you instantly presumed my opinion was from “They” (whomever “they” are).
Way to project how you see politics - in a Tribalist and Unthinking “Follow the Leader” way - onto others.
It’s exactly through reasoning logically up from actual Principles that one concludes that the Democrat Party leadership are nothing more than unprincipled slick grifters representing whomever pays them better (which invariably are some very, very rich people), even when many of the common members of Democrat Party aren’t at all like that but have either been swindled into going along with it (easy to do when people are tribalists and hence whatever their “leaders” tells them needs not be questioned with a keen skeptical eye) or just disempowered via anti-democratic mechanisms such as “super delegates”.
America is as America is now thanks to all the useful idiots, and that’s both the ones on the Republican and on the Democrat side.
Well, the people aren’t really capable of anything on our own, so what else are we going to do on discussion forums?
The people who can actually do something continue to pretend they have 0 idea how to do their fucking Jobs, they’re not playing the blame game rn because they’re too incompetent (willing or otherwise) to get that far
There was never any democracy to begin with if you can’t vote for whoever the fuck you want, without resorting to “lesser evil” strategies.
That’s by design.