No, I disagree with this as well; I find their constant attacks against my org to be annoying and, often, me and my comrades are essentially ignoring them while they focus on lobbing insults are way. I’ve often tried not to get involved in online arguments with them (well, except for one particular time that was a big exception), but they seem belligerent, even with other orgs, despite some very real issues that their org seems to have that they never even address when confronted about it. That’s what makes their tiff with us annoying, honestly.
They’re pretty based for what I can tell, but they do have a bit of the grudge against CPUSA. I don’t know too much about it though. Have you heard of Gus Hall? All I know of the dispute is PCUSA says he was a leader in early CPUSA, and they don’t talk about him, and are forgetting their roots.
I do not like them because of the amount of PatSocs that tend to join the organization, never mind Chris Helali being in it.
To be honest, their grudge goes back to their founding in 2014, when admittedly the whole Sam Webb affair came to its climax and he was ousted from the party. Angelo D’Angelo obviously had had enough after that, but honestly, some of his and his members attacks against the party seem to either indite everyone or not taken into account the realities of the time, in my honest opinion.
Of course, the truth is, I wouldn’t care about PCUSA either way and, in truth, did not back then when I eventually joined the CPUSA, but of course, I find their attacks against us annoying and so it seems I’m forced to sometimes contend with them online.
I hope the organizations can figure out their differences and reunite in practice if not in name, not sure what I could do about it as I’m not even a member.
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No, I disagree with this as well; I find their constant attacks against my org to be annoying and, often, me and my comrades are essentially ignoring them while they focus on lobbing insults are way. I’ve often tried not to get involved in online arguments with them (well, except for one particular time that was a big exception), but they seem belligerent, even with other orgs, despite some very real issues that their org seems to have that they never even address when confronted about it. That’s what makes their tiff with us annoying, honestly.
They’re pretty based for what I can tell, but they do have a bit of the grudge against CPUSA. I don’t know too much about it though. Have you heard of Gus Hall? All I know of the dispute is PCUSA says he was a leader in early CPUSA, and they don’t talk about him, and are forgetting their roots.
I do not like them because of the amount of PatSocs that tend to join the organization, never mind Chris Helali being in it.
To be honest, their grudge goes back to their founding in 2014, when admittedly the whole Sam Webb affair came to its climax and he was ousted from the party. Angelo D’Angelo obviously had had enough after that, but honestly, some of his and his members attacks against the party seem to either indite everyone or not taken into account the realities of the time, in my honest opinion.
Of course, the truth is, I wouldn’t care about PCUSA either way and, in truth, did not back then when I eventually joined the CPUSA, but of course, I find their attacks against us annoying and so it seems I’m forced to sometimes contend with them online.
I hope the organizations can figure out their differences and reunite in practice if not in name, not sure what I could do about it as I’m not even a member.
It’s fine and yes, that would be for the best, I believe.
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Yeah, Chris Helali is bad news.
Who’s that?
This isn’t proof, but a general summary:
https://reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/jdtlmh/what_the_hells_up_w_christopher_helali/g9fxg0x
He ran for political office in Vermont, and PCUSA really advertised it at the time.
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Gus Hall is actually highly talked about in the current CPUSA.
That’s good, I’m guessing they’re just assuming that CPUSA hasn’t improved since they left.