• FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Wait till you see how fascist US censorship works.

    On the up side China has great prosperity because they dont let individuals hoard all the money and they dont allow unregulated free speech that turns countries like the US into INGSOC Oceania

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      2 days ago

      Aren’t you contradicting yourself here? Your first line proclaims the existence of US censorship, but then your next line says that the US is bad because of unregulated free speech. How can there be both censorship and unregulated free speech?

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        2 days ago

        No, I’m not. The unregulated Free speech crowd abused that privilege in order to usher in fascist censorship. The liberals fell for the trap. I’ve taken a lot of crap on this platform from liberals who said that we need to protect all free speech or else the fascists will censor them if they ever gain. power, which is absolutely the most idiotic and tone deaf statement I’ve ever heard.

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            2 days ago

            There is SO much misunderstanding about China that it’s mind-boggling. Their people own the means of production. Profits are used to meet the needs of the people, keeping wealth from being hoarded by individuals and thus slowing the flow of money. Their governmental structure is FAR more representative of the people than the US’s is. Their expansion of high speed rail has been phenomenal. “All the same exploitation” with none of the problems caused by late stage capitalism. Maybe you should try talking to people who live and work there.

            • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
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              China has billionaires and a stock market. That means the workers are not getting the full value of their labor.

              The workers DO NOT own the means of production. The state holds a share in their name but that isn’t the same since the state is totalitarian.

              They have most of the same issues as a late stage capitalist nation in that they have the corruption, the wealth inequality, and all the same pollution.

              There isn’t so much misinformation on China except for the sources you seem to buy into. China is factually speaking an unfree nation and is one of the least free populations on earth.

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                  11 hours ago

                  The only one telling tall tales is the one claiming the workers own the means of production in China when you have an investor class in China that gets profits from work they do not do.

                  • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
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                    3 hours ago

                    None of what you have said has negated my statements, and Chinese billionaires do not own the state like American and Russian oligarchs do over the US

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      How are you Americans holding up? I heard the ministry of plenty has increased the chocolate ration from 50 grams a month to 40 grams a month. A 25% increase. Careful, I heard East Asia, who you’ve always been at war with is predicted to increase missile attacks. At least the end of the war is in sight. Then you can celebrate your victory over Eurasia, who you’ve always been at war with.