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    I’m not too concerned about the dealerships. They have insurance. But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed. That’s not Canadian.

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      But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed.

      No. We need to make fascists afraid again. If you don’t want to be bothered for owning a Klankar, then stop owning a Klankar.

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        So you do realize that a lot of people bought these well intentioned vehicles before Musk became a total fuckstick, right?

        Not everyone has the luxury of being able to just go sell their vehicle that they are more than likely underwater on with the loan and can’t just pivot.

        Nuance my friend.

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    In the words of Duke Nukem, “Hail to the king baby”

    The king being us, the people, who outnumber the billionaires, the billionaires who can still bleed.

    And if it bleeds we can kill it.

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      The damage included “deep scratches and punctured tires.”

      Probably about the same as any other car.

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    At this point it is most likely that it’s the dealerships themselves trying to burn these for the insurance.

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        I mean if they are the ones setting them on fire they don’t need to claim it is arson since it is. They just need to claim they weren’t the arsonists.

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        Probably. Unfortunately side effect is it constantly reinforce in people, “wow people really hate teslas” and further damaging the brand. I find it hard to believe Canadians would due this kind of a thing. Not that they couldn’t, i just have a hard time believing it.

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        I don’t hear Alex Jones screaming about inside jobs.

        Probably because he’s way too far up EMu’s ass.

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          He’s still around? Whatever happened to people knowing when to call it quits and leave everyone’s lives… I swear, ever since the 2000’s and onward people just kind of stick around forever now. Guess that’s another awful side effect of the internet.

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            He sure is and I hear you! It’s unbelievable how cringy his show is now.

            https://knowledgefight.com/

            One of my favorite podcasts where they spend an ungodly amount of time dissecting his horseshit and laughing at him.

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    Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk. Any other public company whose CEO makes a very public Nazi salute would fire that CEO.

    Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions, and that any companies who deal with Musk will also face consequences.

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      Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder

      If they fire him, he would sell. This would tank the stock value.

      They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

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        The stovk price is also all vibes based around him.

        Edit: he wouldn’t sell, though. He couldn’t sell that much. He also has a bunch of loans leveraged against his stock aa collateral. Those collapse if the stock price collapses.

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        It won’t… they will bail it ot with taxpayer money. Like it or not every US citizen will buy some Telsa stock (but never own it). Capitalism for thee, but communism for me if the business fails.

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        The companies board and senior leadership are his family and loyalists, therefore the company is fascist and should be destroyed, regardless of Space Karens involvement.

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      Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions

      On one hand, that might indeed satisfy a lot of the public. On the other hand, we ought to consider that a bad outcome because the real goal should be to tank TSLA to the point that Musk’s holdings no longer suffice as collateral and he’s forced to sell Xitter.

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      I wonder how much money firing him would cost. The initial pay package was a stupid $56 billion. They’d probably have to pay pretty much that amount, and then hire a new CEO still.

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        Even after losing 50% of their value their market cap is still ~750 billion. They’re still valued at nearly 3x what Toyota is, and leagues above any other auto manufacturer. Their investors won’t do anything until they lose way more value, sadly.

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      Exactly, Musk needs to go. Even apart from his abhorrent behaviour this dude supposedly has so many jobs, how can he possibly be doing them all to a reasonable standard let alone one deserving of his insane compensation.

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      And ending production of the Swastitruk would help.

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    It’s very sad that people care more about the feelings of cars than the feelings of people. Cars fucking suck. Cars are tools of oppression.

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      It’s not about the cars. It’s about what a powerful billionaire is doing to people.

      Targeting the cars is just a way to discourage Telsa ownership, tank the stock, and give Musk less power and leverage. A lot of his power comes from his ability to borrow against Tesla.

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        For the past 100 years car dependency has been the sole reason for the destruction of the working class. Henry Ford the Nazi, combined with conspirators in the US government, bulldozed low income neighborhoods to build highways and create suburban utopias for rich white folk.

        Car dependency is a disease which needs to be cured.

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          Ok, but the point still remains. This vandalism isn’t about the cars. It’s about taking money out of a billionaire’s pocket. People would be vandalizing Starlink satellites if they could reach them.

          It’s not about the cars, the cars and stores are just an accessible target. This is about Musk and DOGE.

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    The dealership has insurance and destroyed cars are like sold cars for Te… that company. Or am I missing something?

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      Destroyed cars?

      The damage included “deep scratches and punctured tires.”

      From the article. A quick polish and a time swap and they’re as good as new.

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      Insurance companies are now talking about canceling Tesla coverage because of the high risk of vandalism, so it’s making people (including dealerships) rethink their options.

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      Big thing is that people now know Telsa’s are not just sold by a loon, they’re a vandalism target. Which is two pretty big reasons no to buy a car from Musk.

      Even if you like Musk, do you want to have high insurance rates and spend time at the body shop?

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        and spend time at the body shop?

        Fun fact: not only do Cybertrucks have bare stainless steel body panels, which are extremely difficult and expensive to repair because you have to bodywork them perfect since you can’t use body filler, they have a frame made out of aluminum, which for various metallurgical reasons (work-hardening, forming a passivation layer that makes it much harder to weld, etc.) is also very difficult and expensive to repair.

        In that sense, you’re probably less likely to spend time at the body shop with a Cybertruck because it’s designed to be damn near disposable.

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          Although, since most people seem to be keying, spray painting, and putting stickers on these cars, the stainless is very easy to clean. Just rub some steel wool in the direction of the stainless grain. Apparently they don’t have any clear coat. You can clean them like an industrial stovetop.

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            Yeah, the damage would have to physically displace (i.e. dent) or chemically corrode the surface of the panel in order to be difficult to fix.

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                Yes. High heat can cause the metal to corrode faster or even melt. (And, ya know, completely destroy the rest of the car.)

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      They will have to pay here, yes. And then they will cancel the contract, because high risk and not worth it. The second act of vandalism will then hurt. And the question is: Will the insurance give them the “new” (catalog) price or the “market value” price?

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        “So, you’re saying we get one free claim for as many cars as we can burn in one night without loosing our insurance?” - Them, probably.

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      Does Tesla use dealerships in Canada? In the U.S., they don’t. They have showrooms owned by the company itself and you order online. My state requires dealerships1 and just have service centers here.

      1 It’s a wildly antiquated law. When cars first came out, states passed laws requiring dealerships to guarantee the car companies could service the vehicles. Those laws are still on the books basically because car dealership owners are generally rich people who buy state legislatures. (And there’s a shocking amount who are state legislators.)

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    Demonstrates to the American electorate that democrats celebrate and encourage criminal behavior. How does this help you win elections? Do you think an independent looks at this situation and thinks “Yes these are the people I want to be in charge.” So shortsighted and childish.

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      As opposed to republicans that elected a 34 count felon, court-certified rapist, pedophile president? Party of law and order, am I right? Be glad that it’s shitty, overpriced EVs they’re targeting.

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        There is a different view to your statement. We live in a democracy and we had an election where the citizens chose a felon, Nazi, dictator over your side. They would rather have a court certified rapist in charge than you. Just think about that and understand how repulsive and out of touch you have to be for that to happen. This effort to destroy Tesla is only hurting your cause. It is counterproductive, childish, and small. It’s almost like you want MAGA to win the next election.

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          We live in a democracy

          Do you?

          It’s almost like you want MAGA to win the next election.

          Assuming there is one

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            Yes the next election will be in 2026. This is why people question your ability to interpret reality.

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      I know right? Imagine stirring everyone up into a frenzy and encouraging them to do something illegal in the name of politics. Like storming the capitol. Moron.

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      You sound like a conservative plant lamenting the so-called peaceful liberals, you’ve been sold a lie

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        Why would i be a conservative plant? I think America needs two viable political parties and presently one party cannot compete. Their interpretation of reality is questionable making them repulsive to normal people, which is why they won’t vote for you.

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          Why are you trying to frame it as a Democrat versus Republican thing both sides can have equal amounts of grievances with the shit ass state ofthe fucking presidency right now

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            It is obviously liberal burning down charging stations, spray painting swastikas, and throwing molotov cocktails. With Democrat politicians celebrating and encouraging the behavior. Im not framing it’s reality.