In my opinion, it makes very little sense to prohibit right-deviationists (Nazbols and Patsocs) while not explicitly banning left-deviationists, especially since they are in most ways a comparable threat to revolutionary communities if not worse.
The exact text I suggest is:
- No left-deviationists (Maoists, Hoxhaists, Trotskyists, “left” communists, etc.)
Thoughts?
u wot.
Maoists are genuinely not good for any online ML community.
We’re ML, not Maoist.
Marxism-Leninism beats Gonzaloism any day.
My honest problem with the conduct with many Maoists online (not necessarily IRL) is that they’re very combative, belligerent, and even try to either coup a subreddit, Discord server, online forum, or place like this, by making “demands” or else they’ll dox / threaten / get people to leave / etc. the community and mods.
The worst part is that I’ve seen several communities torn apart with these tactics, usually with Maoist mods being promoted, before they get rid of the other ML mods and replace them with Maoists or ahem ahem ahem “anti-revistionist” (MLs in name only), who are basically just Maoists.
Also, see: /r/communism
It’s now the biggest Maoist subreddit on, well, Reddit, for all intents and purposes.
For the record, I will work with anyone on the streets, including Maoists, but I can’t deny the prevalent culture of combativeness, disagreement for the sake of it, and general belligerence as well as the idolization and totalization of people like Abimuel Guzman and the generals that followed him and their tactics.
Come on, I can’t be the only one that has seen this.
Most Maoists adopt anti-Marxist positions on a number of topics (e.g. rejecting all AES states) and are overall very dogmatic. I know this from my experience with them in the past.
Are these Maoists on the website here with us now?
Eh, I’ve seen PatSocs that have come out of the woodwork suddenly on this site so I’d like to be careful.
And yes, I do recall incidents involving Maoists here.
I’ve been here for like, what?, five years including my very first account?
Sooooo…
Yeah.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Another noob here but lemmyist for years. Recently saw the light. I do see rightwingers of all kinds pop up (not here) rn in what I perceive to be strategic opinion shifting either with reddit-radicalized “centrists”, paid actors or bots. A lot of them have zero posts, some have only anti china, anti russia posts and are 4 weeks old and the mods wont do anything.
With palestine discussion escalating, I assume they’re mass manipulating to manage lemmy’s political stance. Most obvious is the outright manipulation on feddit.org with outright propaganda being pushed, which is kind of on par for germany though.
Just sharing my recent exp. Not trying to make a particular point. :)
speak for yourself, weren’t you the one backing that ultra Organus Flufficus in that deleted thread?
And now you come here with zeal of the convert.
Funny thing is, there’s barely any left-deviationists over on lemmygrad.ml
If you want, you could go argue with some ‘ultras’ in this instance called Hexbear.net
Even hexbear is mostly run of the mill Marxist-Leninists and anarchists. The only Maoist leanings I see are in third-worldist support which is perfectly intuitive to me as a Marxist.