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Tychoxii [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 30 days ago

westerners dissatified with the way democracy is working in their country

www.ipsos.com

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westerners dissatified with the way democracy is working in their country

www.ipsos.com

Tychoxii [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 30 days ago
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  • miz [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    liberal democracy is when you pretend that a billionaire has the same political power as a poorly paid worker

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    “Extremism” being seen as a threat to democracy instead of the way to create real democracy is something we have to work on. People believe they have/had democracy and that the extremes threaten it. Any revolution under such a mindset will only lead to restoration/rejuvenation of liberalism.

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    *westerners finally figuring out they don’t live in a democracy

  • XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    kind of a pointless survey because “democracy” is a meaningless word at this pont

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    They list Fake News as a big problem, but like, everyone knows they’re fake news? So why do people still fall for them?

    • Oh they must mean anything criticizing the west.

    They say lack of accountability from politicians/corruption.

    • Okay so are we gonna do anything to change the system and make sure our leaders are up to their task, resources go where they’re supposed to?

    No, they say extremism is a problem and no systematic changes should be made.

    Libs just want a world where they do only what they want and nobody disagrees with them and everything is taken care for them. Me Me Me Me Me libbing-out

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    Yeah… we all wished we were Russian 😮‍💨

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      Why is every westerner only capable of deflection and never introspection? It’s actually embarrassing to witness.

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        It’s the whataboutism they so gladly point out only when it suits them

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      Funnily enough satisfaction levels aren’t that high in Russia either (it’s a capitalist bourgeois “democracy” as much as Spain or the USA). The overwhelming majority of people in Russia who lived during Socialism (and in Ukraine up to 2013 for that matter), when polled, confirm that life was better under communism.

      If you want to look at countries with a high rate of satisfaction with government, you should check out the governance systems of China and Vietnam. Pew Research polls consistently classify those countries as the ones with the highest number of people being satisfied with government.

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        I think the point is, no one is claiming they want to live in Russia or approve of Putin, in general.

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          I understand the point, but this “whataboutism” with Russia was dumb. Nobody is setting the example of Russia as a paradise to live in, I brought up better examples

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            soypoint-1 whataboutism soypoint-2

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        Removed by mod

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          What part of “Pew Research” don’t you understand? Are you seriously conspiracy-brained enough to believe Pew Research can’t do an anonymous poll in China? I specifically mentioned that the poll is from Pew, a western, very much non-communist organization, to try and avoid this conversation, but I guess you’re too high on western supremacism / eurocentrism to be capable of so much as reading.

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              Yeah, how dare I bring up actual data about polls by western agencies instead of handwaving about “ChInA bAd AuThOrItArIaN TiNyMaN sQuArE”

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                  Why do you even comment if you’re not willing to engage in good faith.

                  Literally nobody talked about Russia but you, idiot

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                  PIGPOOPBALLS

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          puts gun against head

          If you insist. stalin-gun-1 stalin-gun-2

          • alexei_1917 [mirror/your pronouns]@hexbear.net
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            Deal with enough liberals, you start to understand why he had to do so much of that.

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          No no, the gun country with flag pledges and hand on heart shit is the USA

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          i smell an unfalsifiable orthodoxy

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          Everything I don’t like is ennemy propaganda

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      My sibling in christ, you made the country. billdawg putin-wink

      ussr-cry

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      Yeah… about 40 years ago, that is. We don’t wish we lived in modern Russia, we wish we lived in the Soviet Union.

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        No, not really

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          Speak for yourself. Maybe you libs don’t, but us commies sure do.

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      smartest westerner

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      very-intelligent

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      Russia is not a democracy either. Their political system is pretty much the same as America’s.

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      PIGPOOPBALLS

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