Defense Minister Yoav Gallant says he has ordered a “complete siege” of the Gaza Strip, as Israel fights the Hamas terror group.

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba.

We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,” he adds.

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            The point is that neither sides are saints. You cannot just blame Palestine while letting Israel off the hook.

            This is such obvious prelude to actual genocide by Israel, and you don’t see any issues with that?

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            No one is pardoning crimes except those funding and supporting Israel. Israel has literally never been punished for its crimes. Palestine has been punished for its crimes 1000x over, they have also been punished for non-crimes, for talking, for praying, for procreating, for eating, for drinking, for sleeping, for compromising, for negotiating, for asking for help, for not asking for help, and for existing.

            No one is saying that the crimes against innocent Israelis is the goal nor the method of liberation. But we are all more than willing to allow those crimes to occur in the process of liberating Palestine because despite the depravity of those crimes, they are still less depraved, less numerous, and less systematized than the crimes of Israel. We acknowledge that these sorts of crimes happen in all wars and have always happened in all wars for the last 2000 years or more. But that which perpetuates the state of the world, the state of the world where these crimes are committed by the dominant hegemons and their junior partners, is always going to be orders of magnitude worse than that which seeks to end this state of the world. It will always be preferable for violence to be used towards the aims of ending the North Atlantic dominance over the world than to use violence to perpetuate it. It will always be preferable to use violence to end capitalism then it will be to use violence to continue it.

            The decades of violence against Palestinians is multiple times over more violent than anything Palestine could do to Israelis in the next year, even if they committed these crimes every day for a year, because a year is just not enough time to catch up to the amount of violence the Israelis have meted out to the Palestinians.

            So, we mourn the suffering of all Innocents, but we cheer the cause of liberation, because we know that through this struggle, net violence will be reduced and the root causes of violence will be dealt a significant blow.

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            You changed your statement here

            In your previous comment, you wrote “they” as a whole population. Now you write “those who”, the more limited segment.

            But Israel doesn’t just punish the perpetrators here, do they?

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            I’d be happy to answer, as long as we can talk also about how Israel appears to be gearing up for its own final solution to the Palestine problem.

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              You are entangling in your political bs and now are trying to negotiate something. If you wanna answer, do it.

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                That’s really rich, implicitly claiming that civilians are a valid target for one side, but not the other, and that this is somehow not a political distinction. But I’m happy to state it outright: Hamas needs to be held to account, as does the government of Israel. It is not acceptable to target civilians, for anybody. It is Israel doing so now, and must be stopped.

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            There are no evidence any civilians were raped or are enslaved. Stop spreading disinformation.

            And I guess according to your logic, countless thousands more innocents should suffer or die because of the horrible actions of a few.

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      Where did you get your info from?

      Mahmoud Abbas, president of Palestine and head of Fatah, was the one to suspend both legislative and presidential elections and not Hamas. In fact, the latter “strongly opposed the decision to call off elections” (npr.org).

      Abbas’ party has been working closely with the Israeli authorities. His excuse was that “Israel refused to commit to allowing Palestinians to vote in Israeli-occupied East Jerusalem” (npr.org).

      Some (quite convincingly) hypothesise that the suspension of the elections was aimed at preserving his presidency and salvage “his fractured Fatah party [which] was expected to suffer another embarrassing defeat to Hamas.” (apnews.com).

      How can one expect the people to not fight if democracy can’t be exercised freely?

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      It seems likely Israel will succeed in clearing the West Bank

      The West Bank and the Gaza Strip are different areas. Hamas doesn’t control the West Bank, so what are you on about?

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    Fuck you, you piece of shit, the blood of thousands of innocent souls is on your useless fascistic hands. I hope you get what you deserve, you pathetic disgrace of a human. Signed, an Israeli citizen.

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    Yeah, more death and misery for civilians. That will totally show the people why not to support the only ones fighting for them, even if it’s a fucking terrorist group like Hamas. Just like Dehousing worked against Germany in WW2, shooting Ukrainian schools and kindergardens works in Ukraine today, and more than a dozen similiar examples in between those two totally worked…

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    You’d imagine that support for revolutionaries seeking self-determination would be stronger in the West given the origins of the modern American and French state.