Personally, I don’t support either Ukraine or Russia, I see Ukraine as harboring nazis and they should answer for their crimes in the Donbas. However, when Russia invaded Ukraine I saw it as an imperialist invasion for Putin to conquer Ukraine. After He annexed the Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia oblasts, this became a very blatant imperialist invasion. Secondly, I found this post, which talks about the Russian capture of Bakhmut. I was suprised about the number of people who supported Russia. Am I wrong here for not supporting Russia? I would love to hear you opinions on this matter.
Here’s why the KPRF, the communist party in Russia, and Putin’s main opposition, support the war in Ukraine, and fully debunk the “Russia is imperialist” line.
Also, territorial disputes are not imperialism, and the Ukrainian neo-nazi government has been massacering civilians in the Donbass with impunity since the maidan coup in 2014.
You need to be able to define imperialism, or explain why Russia taking out the neo-nazi trash that europe refuses to do, is anything but a good thing.
Nato expansion:
https://forward.com/news/462916/nazi-collaborator-monuments-in-ukraine/
I understand the territorial disputes of Donbass and Luhansk, but what about the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, there aren’t any territorial disputes on those regions.
There are significant Russian populations there, all of whom are in danger of ethnic cleansing by the nazi-led Ukrainian government.
Again, you need to define imperialism, and why you are ‘both-sidesing’ this conflict. Clearly one side is weakening western hegemony, and the other side is trying to expand it. See the image above.
I understand that protecting the russian population in those states, however I don’t believe that invading Ukraine and causing hundreds of thousands of deaths was the right way to protect these people. Not accounting for the untold numbers of people who have fled the regions affected by the fighting.
What is the right way, in your opinion, to protect your people from neo-nazi aggression? Colorful language and witty retorts?
And why is defending yourself from nato’s eastward expansion called “invading”? Did you not see the image above?
And no, the Russian military is not killing “hundreds of thousands” of civilians, gonna need a source on that. If anything, their pace has been extremely slow, to prevent civilian deaths. Lord knows they could steamroll over all of Ukraine if they wanted to, but that doesn’t meet any of their objectives.
I don’t know, I’m just saying that if there was another path that could be taken where so many didn’t have to die, it should’ve. Also I never said that the Russian army was killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, I said that the combined death toll of the army’s of both sides amounted to that much.
considering that russian leadership was clearly afraid of western sanctions i doubt they would have ignored other options if they existed, Russia gains nothing by going to war they arent like the us which is controlled by the board members of arms manufacturers why would they choose the option where their people die and which is most politically costly and which puts them in direct confrontation with the west, fuck Russia tried to join nato and they wouldnt have them its self evident that either there was no other option or Russia didnt see any other option.
Are you aware that all communist parties are banned in Ukraine, but not in Russia? And that the Ukrainian government is threatening to outlaw the Russian language?
How do you feel about Ukraine accepting military and financial aid from the imperialist powers? Why do you think they’re giving that aid?
The russian language is already banned in Lviv oblast. It’s a shame so much is given to ukraine when it’s fate is already sealed. But weapons companies make money and that’s all they care about.
I doubt anyone here is a fan of the damage that has happened, despite the memes and ironic Putin stanning that happens from time to time. But also, this is very much a war for Russia’s security as a nation rather than a war of colonization. The only ones in danger of being colonized here is Russia, which NATO states are attempting to balkanize on behalf of Western finance capital. According to Western media, Russia invaded “first,” yet really Russia’s invasion is a response to decades of hostile Western assaults and breaking of agreements. Whether the ruling class of Russia has imperialist ambitions or not, they simply do not have the capacity to do so.
If this was the '38 and the Soviets struck first and invaded Germany before they could unleash unmitigated terror onto Europe, our world would likely be having a similar conversation.