• Koarnine@pawb.social
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    6 days ago

    Idk bout ur whole argument of russian propaganda but

    “Y’all are too stupid to understand first past the post or the spoiler effect or the way the two party system means you have to vote for the lesser of two evils or you are explicitly condoning the greater evil.”

    Is both seemingly valid and entirely a crock of shit that will result in ratcheting towards fascism every single time.

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      6 days ago

      No it won’t if you primary establishment with progressives and actual leftists. If progressives had registered and voted in Dem primaries everywhere every time we’d have an actually progressive party. But too many dipshits buy the both sides bullshit.

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        3 days ago

        It really doesn’t play out like that though.

        Blaming the voter base will never work, and just serves the interest of the right wing steer.

        You must hold the dems accountable, and primary them for sure.

        But both sides ARE terrible and the dems are highly complicit, it’s not about people ‘buying’ anything, it’s about not rewarding people who happily increase funding to ICE under the current scenario.

        You can’t expect fundamentally disenfranchised people to play in a game that’s rigged against good without inspiring them with hope.

        Look at Mamdani, there were no candidates in the 2024 election like that. Why? Simple… THERE WAS NO DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.

        BLAME THE PARTY, who forced this upon us! They lost an easily winnable election, no-one else is half as culpable.

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          3 days ago

          It doesn’t play out that way because you and people like you refuse to take any responsibility or accountability for yourselves and don’t vote. All of you willfully let the republicans take over and do this. Everything happening right now is the direct fault and responsibility of everyone who did not vote Democrat in every primary and general since 2016. It’s utterly fucked that you need feel the need to be convinced to vote on your best interests, even when it’s fucking existential, and here you still are refusing to take responsibility for your lack of civil engagement. Everything about your whole take is why Americans deserve what’s happening to us. Most of us couldn’t be fucked to do the bare goddamn minimum. Americans are fully utterly totally responsible for everything the Trump regime is doing. Take some goddamn responsibility for yourself.