22 Tomato and 11 pepper plants, spacings a little tighter than it should be on some of the tomatoes, but it should be okay.

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    It’s less about maximizing in volume in the way you seem to be thinking.

    20 tomato plants planted too close together are going to produce X tomatoes of shit quality.

    10 tomato plants planted too close together will produce X tomatoes of a slightly better quality.

    6 tomato plants at this grouping would produce potentially normal quality fruits.

    I’m almost positive those pepper plants won’t produce anything.

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      That’s just entirely not true. It’s far more complicated than that.

      20 plants can produce just as much and as high quality fruit as 6, is it as easy? No. Those 20 plants would be pruned a down to 4 vines say, whereas 4 plants could have 20 or more. That doesn’t mean it makes larger fruits. It could make them smaller.

      In fact, having one plant or even four with a canopy this large. Would make for many tiny shitty fruits instead of large ones, the inverse happens if the plant grows TOO large. Since there is now too many fruiting sites for the root mass.

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        Well, feel free to show us the results in 2 months and see if I’m right. I can’t even tell the directions of sun traversal from this pic, and I’m 100% sure about my assertion here.

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          Tomato’s are a plant that benefit from selective pruning to maximize yields.

          You’re arguing against established science regarding plant yields. You can’t just let a tomato plant grow wild and expect the maximum yield or the largest fruits. Yes if I just let these plant run amok, there’s gonna be issues. If that’s all you wanted to point out, it’s noted, and clearly not needed for me eh?

          I told you the planter direction, you can’t seem to read my comments, I’ve addressed most of the things you’ve brought up already. You have been wrong about both points you’ve brought up, another user completely agreed with the interplanting.

          Just being argumentative?

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            No, I’m arguing FOR the science of tomato and pepper agriculture.

            The same science that says 24" AT A MINIMUM is needed between tomato plants. You’ve halved that here. There is a reason for that, and you seem to want to just argue with everyone explaining why you’ve got a problem here.

            Good luck to you.

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              Science says 24”…? Please provide this paper, would love to see it and its supporting documents. Determinate and indeterminate have different spaces to begin with, so that’s just obviously bullshit lol.

              That’s average “guidelines” anyways, and even some tomato plants say 16, and some say 36”, its each individual cultivar. But it all comes down to root mass to canopy size, a plant only has X energy to give, too many fruiting sites, and you have small shitty fruits. This is basic plant botany even. As I said, it’s far more complicated than you are making it.

              And if you have read my comments, it’s quite clear I know I need to address some stuff, which is stuff you need to do ANYWAYS to tomato plants. So yeah…? Of course I do.

              Do you want to mention I need to water them once in a while too? Maybe weed them as well?

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                  From your own link, read them instead of just googling some terms and pasting the ai result.

                  The ideal spacing for tomato plants depends on the growth habit of the variety and whether plants will be pruned:

                  Notice the key word pruning there…?

                  And the word ideal…? Not an actual minimum…? They do everything to say there isn’t actually a minimum, and there’s too many variables.

                  lol, lmfao even. I knew the paper would be flawed or point out the issue with what you’ve been saying or comprehending about it.

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                    I read just fine. You seem to be struggling though.

                    See ya in 2 months when you’re back here wondering what went wrong 🤣

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                    “Give me a source”

                    “Here’s 3”

                    “Nah, you’re wrong, I’m still right”

                    Classic.