If I registered at lemmy.world, is it possible to still comment on a thread at say lemmy.ml? I get the expected “You are not logged in” and while subscribing is easy enough, I’m not able to comment or interact with other instances. This seems normal as users are unique per instance, I just want to make sure I’m not missing a key component of federated services. The sign in page at lemmy.ml says “You will still be able to interact with other instances” so that is confusing wording there as well.

EDIT: it works fine, you just need to be subbed to the other community before you can comment. Thanks /u/nulluser !

Edit 2: you don’t even need to be subbed, I still have lots to learn, lol thank you all for your patience

  • spicyjimmy87762@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Is lemmy.world connected to kbin? I’m trying to interact with their instances but it doesn’t seem to work. kbin.social appears to be one of the faster growing instances. It would be nice if we could interact with them.

  • ticktok@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    You don’t even have to subcribe to the other community to comment on it, you just need to “arrive” at that community/post through your instance. example, I 'm on lemmy.ml and not subscribed to lemmy.world, but comment here. I actually got here from browsing ‘All’ from lemmy.ml so I was already within my instance.

    The other method would be to go to your home instance, I’m using lemmy.ml in my case, go to the search and search for either the instance or user you want. Instances start with ! and users start with @. So either !lemmyworld@lemmy.world or @ArtVandelay@lemmy.world, then you can click through and you’ll be able to comment on it from your instance and it will have an instance link. In this case, this post through lemmy.ml is url https://lemmy.ml/post/1185740

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      1 year ago

      Question. If you live on instance 1, and located a useful post on instance 2 through a social link or Google search, is there an expedient way to go to “instance1/instance2/thatpost”? So far, my process has been to search the community link, and then Ctrl+F for the post title.

      • ticktok@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        I haven’t found a better way than that unfortunately. Supposedly the devs are working on a better way, but idk.

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      1 year ago

      Hmm, so if I could question.

      I get the instance data sharing and the federation, but are things like logins / users a swarm / shared type of information? IE if the server I’m at home on goes down does my account go with it?

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        1 year ago

        As far as I’m aware, if an instance goes down, your account goes with it unfortunately.

  • effingjoe@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    It might help wrap your mind around this federation stuff by thinking about email. You don’t need to concern yourself with whether you and someone you want to send an email to are on the same email domain, say between Outlook and Gmail, you just send an email and because everyone is using the same protocol, the email can get to anyone with an email address.

    The fediverse is kinda the same way.

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      1 year ago

      Good analogy. I think it’s closer to USENET in nature, but there’s every chance many people are not aware of what usenet is or was.

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    1 year ago

    I really think the fediverse decentralized structure is going to be the future in the long run. It’s going to have some rough stuff here and there, and I don’t fully understand how it will work (for example, let us say I joined a small lemmy server and it shuts down. Will all of those communities and posts cease to be part of the whole?)

    I’m loving it so far though.

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      1 year ago

      To your question, my understanding is that all your account activity is stored on your instance as the primary source, and then copied into other instances as users there view and interact with your posts and comments. So if the instance with your account on it shuts down, all of its content that was already copied over to other servers will be preserved there, but some of the newer activity that didn’t have time to propagate yet might be lost.

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        1 year ago

        Thank you, that makes sense. So another question. If my instance closes down, will I lose control over all of the copied content from my previous account since I would most likely have to make a new one on another instance?

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          1 year ago

          I’m not sure what options there might exist now or in the future for gracefully migrating between instances, but in the worst case yes, if your instance unexpectedly shuts down then you won’t be able to authenticate and access that user account anymore. You do need to have some trust in the instance you join.

    • Photographer@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      it would help if there was some background identifier though so we could differentiate from the same community on two different instances without having to type @instance every time