I appreciate the often simultaneous complaints that:
- A) The protests weren’t impactful enough
- B) The protests should just end already because they’ve been negatively impacted
Like, guys… either be nihilists or reactionaries, but don’t try to be both at once. Strikes hurt everyone; that’s the point.
They are delusional. It’s no wonder the internet became so consolidated when them goons lack critical thinking. People just settle with whatever shit they have now instead of demanding a better product. Sad times.
I agreed with the mods in /r/gis that there should be an indefinite blackout and got downvoted. Some person even called me “fucking stupid.” That place is such a toxic dumpster fire. I’m happy for kbin/lemmy.
any suggestions for a geospatial community here?
I too reside in a geospatial location; let’s talk!
For sure. This was absolutely the kick I needed to get off reddit. Spent way too much time there, and with Fediverse being far less busy with doomscrolling content, I’m more productive at work (who knew??).
Not your boss, luckily!
But yes the same … This has reminded me of the early days of Reddit itself. Far fewer uses and posts so generally actually interesting rather than ‘scroll fodder’
I heard lots of very similar comments about protests in France, always from people who didn’t even join the protests in the first place, too.
I think that’s a big thing. The people who most strongly supported the blackout largely left or at least use Reddit a lot less.
Heck, one sub I use frequently, the Stardew valley sub, apparently did a poll yesterday (and only yesterday) about next steps. But I was treating the 14th as a day to still stay off Reddit (it wasn’t really clear exactly when the blackout should have ended), so I didn’t get to even have a say in the poll despite using the sub frequently. I only even saw it because of a post announcing the results (majority wanted further blackout but it needed 2/3s).
That poll sounds very disingenuous lol, why make a poll during the short time where most of the users won’t be able to take it ? Especially when to get to the absolute majority, you’d need the people not able to take it to come in and vote. To me, it sounds like they simply wanted to “appear” democratic but didn’t actually want to go through with possibly losing the sub.
Amusingly, among the very first posts to /r/france once it went back up was a call to reinstate the blackout indefinitely.
Looks like the mods won’t even make a poll on r/france. But this is the worse french sub anyway, r/rance is the better one, and are currently considering extending the blackout. It looks like most people there are in favor of letting the mods do what they see fit to extending it for longer and voting again sometime in the future. Thank god at least one french sub lives up to our reputation haha
r/norge (norwegian sub) just went indefinite at once, it was highly supported when it happened, I’m sure we would have that chaos as well if they opened it and then wanted to close again.
The Kbin app changes everything for me. I’m now perfectly comfortable here and have zero need to go back to Reedit.
I feel the same. I’m done with reddit and happy to be here.
What is this app you speak of?? Last I heard it was still under development. I’m desperate for better mobile UX lulz
It’s actually not an app it just uses a manifest.json so you get a wrapper with icon on your home screen… Once launched its just the same as when you invoke the URL via browser.
Yep, there’s a lot of work to do, but this is still very much usable.
There is an app?
I don’t see it in the playstore but was prompted to download the app when I opened a random post
And it was a direct download and install as far as I could tell
@JoeKewl it’s a progressive web app, your browser detects the manifest and offers to make a sandbox version on your homescreen.
That bird’s expression is so relatable.
And so many assholes blaming mods for the situation, not the dickhead in charge that could easily stop everything by reverting the changes.
This is usually the case when someone calls out bad behaviour. People turn and look at the person doing the calling out, and see them as the shit disturber, rather than the toxic or abusive person.
Unfortunately, it’s just part of standing up for something.
to be fair, he probably can’t really do that. If he did I would imagine that shareholders would just replace him.
he could do it at the cost of having the company not go for IPO. but we all know he is after the moolah
He might also not really have the ability to do that, either. If the board, controlled by VCs and entities that are looking to offload their stake in never-been-profitable Reddit want the company to go public, the company is going public. With or without spez.
How else do you apply pressure to the dickhead? a 2 day protest doesn’t do anything impactful. What if the American/French Revolution only lasted 2 days?
I think the 2 day protest was so a lot more subreddits would be willing to participate, and was ultimately used to spread awareness throughout the userbase (and get some traction in the news cycle). I don’t think anyone leading the charge was expecting spez or reddit as a whole to cave and revert everything within those 2 days, but you’d be surprised how easily users can ignore that stuff unless it’s shoved right in their face
Ultimately despite reddit still being a shithole, I think it was pretty effective. Not sure it could be called “rexxit”, but the fediverse is far more populated (and a bit more mainstream) now, as people start realizing there is a way for the community to hold some power and not constantly be at the mercy of bad management or greed
I suspect that it’s not quite that simple. AFAIK, Reddit simply isn’t profitable, and they need to make it profitable. Or at least break even. Reverting to mean isn’t the answer, because they’d just keep losing money. But I don’t know what the real solution is. Obviously they advertise, but people using the non-official apps don’t see those, and people that use the old.reddit.com with layered ad blocking scripts also don’t see ads; that means those users are costing them money, and not earning them any money.
I don’t know what the solution is. Pissing off and losing a massive segment of your user base cuts costs, but also cuts your potential ad revenue.
Pissing off and losing a massive segment of your user base cuts costs, but also cuts your potential ad revenue.
They’re gambling on it not hurting their potential ad revenue at all. They’ll try to bolster their ranks with new users who are just looking for content streams and start doing whatever they can to squeeze as much shareholder value out of them as possible.
Agree but they lost good opportunities I think by not properly engaging with people like the Apollo developer. Someone who evidently understood their need to monetize their API etc but instead of thinking what’s reasonable they seemed to have pivoted to crazy.
There was surely a halfway house?
Reddit should be like Wikipedia. Crowd sourced internet library/forum that begs for server costs a few times a year.
That reminds me - I need to donate to Wikimedia.
I poked my head in this morning after staying away a couple of days. I’ve been on the fence about whether this event spells the end of my time on Reddit or not. I think it does. The comments like OP shows in his meme, combined with the behavior of Spez since the blackouts - that’s just not something I want to be a part of. I don’t want to contribute in the smallest way to the continued dominance of Reddit in that category of social media platform.
I’ll mull it over another few days, but pretty sure my main account is getting deleted this week. I have a secondary account that I might just stop using, but (due to what I use it for) am not quite sure I want to delete yet.
Probably means I need a new kbin account too, since I din’t really consider whether “runningfrommreddit” was a name I’d want to potentially use for years when I set it up. 😁
My only issue is how many posts/comments I’ve saved on my account over the years. Also how often I searched for product recommendations on there which date back years
Think I’m planning to keep my account, maybe use the script to edit all my comments, and then just view it accountless every now and then
I ended up going thru all of my saved posts before the protests started. Saved things to text documents, subscribing to youtube videos I had saved, saved images and external links.
Yeah but in 10 years it would be a nice conversation starter.
i think runningfromreddit is a cool name :)
People hate protesters in general, they don’t like disruption.
I think the funniest thing in all of this is how so incredibly easy it took for Reddit to swing into the support of these profit-driven and greedy decisions simply because it slightly inconvenienced them for a couple days. Like the second they’re faced with something that could disrupt their daily content feed they just completely bend over backwards
I don’t expect everyone to be perfect, I’m certainly not, but at least have the guts to admit there’s a problem. The fact that all these users perform Olympic gold-level mental gymnastics to somehow justify the blackout is not only something that won’t help at all, but the people doing it are wasting time and are idiotic is…well actually that’s pretty on point for the site
Maybe all of those who supported the blackouts were true to their word and left and only those against remain?
Very possible. But even the people left I am sure will go back to virtue signaling about how awful greedy companies are and how we need to take a stand against them while ironically still posting from and thereby supporting one
As dumb as it sounds it reminds me of that Black Mirror episode where the guy slowly uncovers everyone is being lied to by the government, and ultimately gets hired by that same government as a skeptic radio persona that everyone loves to listen to while they fall back in line
And if Reddit does make positive changes those same passive users who believe anything corporations tell them (the type who call everyone else idiots because they don’t understand business) will laud the charges and say how great Reddit is for making them.
This happens so often in tech. "Company X should never change’ becomes ‘i love company X because they’ve improved!’
People can be weirdly aggressive in how they align with their favorite corporate 3rd parties.
Purposely Accelerated September
I honestly think something like that happened. It wouldn’t even need to be all. Of just half left the other half wouldn’t have the numbers to keep from being down voted out of the conversation.
I think some of it is that and probably some brigading with bots.
they do it for free too
The only message a 2 day blackout sent to the CEO of Reddit was “wait two days and everything will be normal again”. Dunno why you’d do two days only to follow it up with an indefinite shutdown. Seems like a bunch of time wasted, and more confusing to redditors who just want a feed of stuff they like, making it harder to decide if they should leave for an alternative like kbin or Lemmy.
