cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/735085

Czech President Petr Pavel says Russian citizens living abroad should be put under “strict surveillance” by intelligence services in their host countries.

“All Russians living in Western countries should be monitored much more than in the past because they are citizens of a nation that leads an aggressive war,” Pavel said in an interview with Radio Free Europe released Thursday.

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    1 year ago

    This sounds familiar. Presumption of guilt based on their heritage or nation or origin is discrimation.

    Quoting Lieutenant General John L. DeWitt, head of the Western Defense Command (1943):

    I don’t want any of them [persons of Japanese ancestry] here. They are a dangerous element. There is no way to determine their loyalty… It makes no difference whether he is an American citizen, he is still a Japanese. American citizenship does not necessarily determine loyalty… But we must worry about the Japanese all the time until he is wiped off the map.

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      1 year ago

      I was going to say the comparison to Japanese internment was an unfair comparison but Pavel made it first himself. Widespread detainment based on nation of origin should not be a thing anywhere.

      Russian citizens should be under, or at least expect to be under, some security scrutiny. How much scrutiny is an open question to me but I could see Russian citizens being a little more than usual. But anyone should be in a foreign country. If you go taking pictures of national security sensitive places you shouldn’t be surprised if you are shooed off or possibly detained depending on what exactly it is.

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        1 year ago

        But anyone should be in a foreign country. If you go taking pictures of national security sensitive places you shouldn’t be surprised if you are shooed off or possibly detained depending on what exactly it is.

        This is conflating two issues though. Simply existing in a foreign country should not be suspicious. Obviously taking pictures of security sensitive places is, but that would be the case for a natural-born citizen as well.

        Edit to add: I didn’t bring up internment camps to imply this would lead to that, simply that the same exact sentiment is seen in both cases. How that sentiment is reacted to can be different. It’s also worth nothing the “they should be eradicated” message, which I’ve seen echoed a lot about Russia, just as it is used here against Japan(ese).

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    1 year ago

    I think the main thing to understand is that these have been the actions of the Russian government, not necessarily individual Russian citizens. This seems like overkill to me.

    To be clear, in no way am I giving Russia a free pass, obviously what they’ve done is reprehensible; I just know that there are a lot of Russian citizens who would also agree with that statement.