I would like to address the doomers.

Just stop. All you are accomplished is dissuading people from trying. Even if we fail, some of us would rather go out feeling good about ourselves knowing that we actually tried. If we succeed, I want to be on the right side of history. If you want to drive a canyonero through a drive through to buy a double cheeseburger on your way to the airport to fly somewhere for a shopping trip: please keep it to yourself.

  • There is still hope
  • Most people want action. I can cite more than one source.
  • Things are starting to turn around. Not as fast as we need to, but we are seeing change
  • Some of us are parents and have a reason to fight with all we have
  • If things get bad, our kids will actually want to have a relationship with us if we cared enough to try
  • Many things that help are economically better on the micro and macro scales

Doomers are the fossil fuel industry’s best friend-- even more than the deniers are. If enough people succumb to it, they don’t even have to pay lip service to the problem. Doomerism means you can continue to pollute and not even try.

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        Fair enough. I think doom as in. End of times. Time fo nut up or shit up. When you are backed up against the wall you need to fight. Not give up.

        But perspective and all that

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        Spreading awareness of how fucked everything is, is not giving up.

        People need to know that the world is fucking ending so that they stop having kids and buying cars and doing stupid shit. People should be enjoying the last of the abundance and lowering their expectations about the future.

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            Nah i draw the line at forced.

            Humans suck tho, you’re right about that.

            Octavia Bulter wrote in I think it was Lillith’s Brood, that (I’m paraphrasing) ‘humans are greedy, easily corruptable and prone to violent authoritarianism- and always have been’ and it’s stuck with me for years now.

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      Meh I just hate you folks and associate whatever I hear with bullshit doomerism rather than wanting to listen. I don’t think you are as helpful as you think.

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        Kool. Hate you too. Get rekt playa

        Don’t really care. Be all dead soon enough. Then doesn’t matter. Doesn’t matter now either. Your opinion is nothing same as mine

        Woop Woop