• smotherlove@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    To deny the existence of unskilled labor is pure delusion and it alienates people who haven’t drank the koolaid. Instead argue that unskilled labor must still be compensated with at least enough money to be financially secure, same as all full time employment, regardless of what it is.

    If you work full time, you shouldn’t need to worry about money. That’s it. Don’t say more.

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      11 months ago

      Dude. Yes. I was trying to think of a way to say it, but you nailed it.

      No matter what you do, as long as you’re contributing something (if you’re able), you should be able to make a living and not worry about food and shelter and healthcare and the ability to learn new information.

      If you go out of your way to learn a difficult skill that requires years of work and training(engineering, medicine, agriculture, etc) then what you do is absolutely skilled labor.

    • rockSlayer@lemmy.worldOPM
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      11 months ago

      all labor requires skill, which is why I reject the term “unskilled”. In a world in which the value of a person is determined by the value of their labor, calling a job “unskilled” carries the implication that people that are only capable of that labor are worth less. However, that’s secondary to the point this post is trying to make and you clearly recognized: everyone deserves a living wage.

      • daed@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        I mean… I get what you’re trying to say, but I think your passion is misplaced. It’s a nice thought, of course everyone wants to feel valued for their labor.

        Certain labor is worth more than others. And some labor does not require any skills. These are facts. Picking something up and moving it over there does not require any skills unless you want to get silly and say that basic human coordination is a skill. There are jobs out there for simple manual labor like this.

        Everyone that works full time deserves a living wage. Funnel your passion into that point, not the one that is objectively incorrect and will sway people away from your main and very valid point.

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          11 months ago

          Can you stand in one spot for twelve hours straight? Can you do it 4 days in a row? I doubt it.

        • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          11 months ago

          some labor is worth more than others

          Duh

          some labor does not require any skills

          Wrong.

          picking something up and moving it doesn’t

          Yes it does. Proper lifting technique, the muscles to lift whatever it is, coordination and balance to not drop that shit, likely math skills would be involved in such a job, likely written language skills as well.

          Just because you can’t think of the skills it requires immediately doesn’t meant there isnt skill being used

          All labor is skilled in some way, thus all labor should be paid fairly.