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GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems to SneerClub@awful.systemsEnglish · 2 years ago

"As always, pedophilia is not the same as ephebophilia." - Eliezer Yudkowsky, actual quote

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"As always, pedophilia is not the same as ephebophilia." - Eliezer Yudkowsky, actual quote

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GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems to SneerClub@awful.systemsEnglish · 2 years ago
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Thought experiment: The transhuman pedophile — LessWrong
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Comment by Eliezer Yudkowsky - I may never actually use this in a story, but in another universe I had thought of having a character mention that... call it the forces of magic with normative dimension... had evaluated one pedophile who had known his desires were harmful to innocents and never acted upon them, while living a life of above-average virtue; and another pedophile who had acted on those desires, at harm to others. So the said forces of normatively dimensioned magic transformed the second pedophile's body into that of a little girl, delivered to the first pedophile along with the equivalent of an explanatory placard. Problem solved. And indeed the 'problem' as I had perceived it was, "What if a virtuous person deserving our aid wishes to retain their current sexual desires and not be frustrated thereby?" (As always, pedophilia is not the same as ephebophilia.) I also remark that the human equivalent of a utility function, not that we actually have one, often revolves around desires whose frustration produces pain. A vanilla rational agent (Bayes probabilities, expected utility max) would not see any need to change its utility function even if one of its components seemed highly probable though not absolutely certain to be eternally frustrated, since it would suffer no pain thereby.

I somehow missed this one until now. Apparently it was once mentioned in the comments on the old sneerclub but I don’t think it got a proper post, and I think it deserves one.

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    Yudkowsky is pretty open about being a sexual sadist

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      @GorillasAreForEating @andrew_bidlaw

      Yes, but, having now put that image into our minds, what does that make *you*?

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        the basilisk

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      Did you know brent dill is back on twitter?

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        I did not. Got any details?

        Also FWIW I discovered this yesterday: https://archive.ph/SFCwS

        No idea if it’s true, but even if so I don’t think it would exonerate him (though it would put Aella in a worse light)

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          first of us to give in and get an Urbit account clearly gets the best dirt

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            I made one out of morbid curiosity years ago but this was way before they decided to start crypto grifting for cash, so I’ve got no doubt my blah blah self-sovereign something something decentralized mumble mumble digital property has been liquidated by the king for not paying taxes

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              but @self, HOT ABYSSES IN YOUR AREA

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                it is the garbage I crave at a price far too grave for humanity

                god, how much does a garbage scow or whatever’s the smallest non-transient address allocation cost these days?

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                  i believe the “comets” are free and you don’t need to become a shitcoiner

                  also i believe the 64-bit addresses are called “peasant’s filthy hovel” and have names like ~sodomy-dumass-cmpsci-ilitrt

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                    @dgerard me: what is an urbit
                    wikipedia: look, you really don’t want to know, but if you insist…
                    me: 🙀

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                    the worst part is I’m pretty sure the address ~sodomy-dumass-cmpsci-ilitrt would cost a lot more cause it’s both memorable and accurate

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          https://x.com/nbouscal/status/1736179370749030729?s=20 Right in the middle of some TPOT dispute

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      I can reserve a forth option just for him. Imagine a classification of pedoes, and a category being just ‘Yudkowsky’. I feel that many jews sharing the same surename wouldn’t be pleased.

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