This looks toxic, by the way.

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    Police in Finland regularly stop suspects by shooting them into leg which according to many Americans is impossible due to how inaccurate pistols are. That apparently means the alternative is then to dump the entire mag into the torso.

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          you’ll note that they don’t say he was shot in the thigh intentionally. I suspect that they were aiming center mass and were just off. it happens. hitting a running target is… well here, the FBI tallies a ~47% chance to hit between 5-15 feet. (this is comparison to an 87% chance to be hit if you’re standing still.)

          Shots to extremities happen, nobody is saying they don’t. But doing so on purpose is almost impossible. Especially on a running target. Even with a rifle. This is why you don’t use a weapon fundamentally designed to be lethal as “less lethal”. At best, you wing him and he’s still running. at worst, you miss, and clip a mom and her infant baby behind them.

          There’s better tools to take some one down without lethal force. (see UK police tactics with Batons, for an example.)

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            Yeah, I’d think outside of movie-style moments it’s not something that makes sense 99.9% of the time, I just thought it was an interesting claim. It would have been more interesting if it were true. 😁

            (to be clear I’m not the guy who made the claim)

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        Situations where Finnish police result to using their firearm are rare to begin with but you can just google it and find several articles with examples of this. However I can’t find any source on how police are instructed to act when it comes to using deadly force.

        Since 2000, ten people have died as a result of use of force by law enforcement officers in Finland. This includes a prison guard shot by accident during a training exercise, and a detainee who died of undetermined causes after being fired at with a taser.

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        Poliisi ampuu ihmistä kohti vain noin viidessä tehtävässä vuosittain / Police shoot towards people only about 5 times a year.

        Miljoonasta hälytystehtävästä ampuma-asetta on käytetty vuosittain vain noin kymmenessä tehtävässä, ja niissäkin kohdistettu laukaus ihmistä kohti on ammuttu vain puolessa tapauksista / Out of a million emergency calls, a firearm has been used in only about ten incidents annually, and even in those cases, a shot aimed at a person has been fired in only half of the situations.

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        EDIT: Another example EDIT2: And another

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        Very rare. You can usually count the annual deaths by law enforcement on your fingers.