The emphasis on family values and the portrayal of LGBTQ+ pleople as a threat to these values has been part of a narrative often resorted to by local politicians including President Erdogan.
  • NotchPersona@lemmy.worldEnglish
    111·
    1 year ago

    I was thinking of visiting Istanbul this year. I guess I will pass and spend my pink money somewhere else. Where it is appreciated.

    • moogmouth@kbin.social
      2·
      1 year ago

      The weird thing is that homosexuality was decriminalised in Turkey in 1858 (compare that to 1967 in the UK), yet in 2020 they found that 57% of Turks oppose accepting it in society, and the government is and has always been very queerphobic.

    • Tetra@kbin.social
      2·
      1 year ago

      I mean Turkey being anti-LGBT isn’t exactly a new developement. I’m glad you’re not going anymore as that could put you in danger, but they’ve never been subtle about their stance on that matter. Careful where you travel.

    • dotancohen@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      1 year ago

      Come to Israel. We respect everybody. Yes, even the people that the news tries to make you think that we hate. The vast majority of us don’t.

      • Aiastarei@lemmy.worldEnglish
        42·
        1 year ago

        If you weren’t killing kids, displacing families, and generally a colonial ethnostate we would love to visit israel.

        • dotancohen@lemmy.worldEnglish
          22·
          1 year ago

          Well then you’ll be glad to visit, because that narrative is easy to dispel. Especially considering the topic of this post is visiting Turkey of all intolerant places.

          • tookmyname@lemmy.mlEnglish
            6·
            1 year ago

            It’s not easy or possible to dispel that it’s a literal theocratic ethnostate. It’s something they’re pretty open about. Still think it’s worth a visit. Lots of places with shitty governments are worth visiting.

            • dotancohen@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              1 year ago

              Israel is far less theocratic than the United Kingdom, where the head of State is also the head of Church. And she’s actually a descendant of Muhammad too! I could mention quite a few other “esteemed” theocracies, from Iran to (arguably) the United States (Christmas is a government holiday). Any definition of “Theocracy” that includes Israel, will include the majority of the Western world.

              As for being an ethnostate, Israel is far less of an ethnostate than any other middle eastern country with possibly the exception of Lebanon depending on how you’d like to frame Lebanese law requiring certain government positions to be held by people of certain ethnicities. And any definition of “ethnostate” that includes Israel will include Belgium, Latvia, Estonia, and Ireland as well, at a minimum.

  • wabafee@lemmy.worldEnglish
    101·
    1 year ago

    Maybe this gay man and women are more manly than this men in the office. For having balls of steel doing pride match in a country who prosecute them.

    • LostCause@kbin.social
      1·
      1 year ago

      After seeing the women in Iran side by side protesting and fighting with the men who support them, I wish we could instead try to change this entirely, associating manly with strong and womanly as weak seems so outdated in a world where strength isn‘t only from muscles.

  • ivt@kbin.social
    21·
    1 year ago

    And what exactly are these “family values” and how does the LGBT community weakens them?