• 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    I’m aware of the concept of scientific socialism. It does not mean we can perfectly predict the future, and it certainly does not mean we can perfectly predict future actions down to an individual level (AOC’s).

    We could spend all day listing the differences between Germany and the USSR in the 1920s and the U.S. in the 2020s. If you want to be scientific, tell me how the predictive value of an experiment changes when you spend a century altering key inputs before running it again.

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      8 months ago

      phoenix-think It depends, have the key inputs truly changed, or have the same incentives which cause social democrats to prop up empire and far right regimes when push comes to shove remained the same.

      phoenix-objection-1phoenix-objection-2 AOC carrying water for Nazis liquidating Palestinians

      phoenix-evidence When push comes to shove, these social democrats abandon all realistic modes of progressive change and instead ask us to stay within the system. When we don’t they support the system coming down on us hard; if any real revolution or change were to occur it’s clear she would stand on the side of the bourgeoisie like an old fashioned uncle tom. The fundamental incentives have not changed in over one hundred years; they value staying in the master’s house more than liberation.

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        8 months ago

        If you think you can perfectly predict the future, I don’t know what to tell you.

        If you think there is no significant difference between late-czarist Russia or Weimar Germany and the modern U.S., I don’t know what to tell you.

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          8 months ago

          There clearly is, but you’d be a fool not to see that the same incentives have not changed whatsoever for social democrats to continue aiding and abetting fascism. Has AOC even made a statement against bombing the only outside force who’s taken clear and successful military action against the zionist entity? Is it only fascism when us-foreign-policy? If we take a clear definition of fascism as a tool of the bourgeois class/liberals to forcibly cut down opposition to their rule by whatever means necessary when they’re actually in genuine danger, would the attacks on Yemen not constitute utilization of a fascist machine? Is she not already carrying water for fascism? I don’t mean this as hypotheticals or predicting the future; she’s already doing exactly what I’m talking about and it’s clear how this can and will escalate as things get worse.