• buckwheat@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Christ, never thought I’d have a stopped clock moment with one of these sovcit mooks.

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      10 months ago

      Sovcits are all seeking to regain control of their lives. They recognize the system is cold and uncaring but though the power of magical thinking they believe that loopholes exist that can give you control back.

      Are they delusional? Yes. Is their pain and frustration, the root cause of the insanity, valid? Absolutely valid, and something all of us (generalizing here, bourgeoisie excluded) experience.

      You have more in common with a sovcit than you do with Jeff Bezos or any other billionaire.

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        10 months ago

        I think sovcit is what happens when you recognize all of these things about our society, but lack the class consciousness to know that we need to act collectively and not hyperindividually

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          Definitely a significant part of it. Another aspect is definitely that of the conspiratorial/magical thinking that lets you believe that your exceptionalism has led you to find the secrets to easy and happy life that everyone else is just too dumb to see.

          It’s pretty classical conspiratorial thinking in that sense: That idea of occult understanding, hidden knowledge… all fits with the gnostic mysticism that preceded it.

          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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            Another aspect is definitely that of the conspiratorial/magical thinking that lets you believe that your exceptionalism has led you to find the secrets to easy and happy life that everyone else is just too dumb to see.

            this is the part I have the most trouble dealing with, not only are they delusional but they’re maniacally happy about their delusions and are assured that they’re just so fucking clever.

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          10 months ago

          Wow, this just reframed them in a profound way. It’s so obvious that I hadn’t considered it. Thanks!

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        10 months ago

        Is their pain and frustration, the root cause of the insanity, valid?

        Not the ones mad at traffic laws and child support.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah he’s right about all that. He just then chooses an insane and useless method to fix it. If he tried to create a community of people banding together to force change, like a renters union, he’d have more luck and sympathy.