• WhoRoger@lemmy.worldOP
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    1 year ago

    They are, but even YT won’t last forever. TikTok and IG are eating their lunch badly, and as YT continues to chase after that market and keeps neglecting and pissing off people that bring value to the platform, something just might crop up as an alternative.

    I mean, a month ago many thought Reddit is irreplaceable, and now look around.

    • zekiz@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      But reddit is fundamentally built different than other social media platforms. Reddit is more like a collection of forums than a social media platform. The only thing that keeps people on reddit is the content and that can be moved.

      On Youtube its the Algorithm and the Content Creators that keep people to use the platform. PeerTube and LBRY simply don’t have the creators Youtube has.

      On reddit people choose what to see. On YouTube the algorithm simply is wayy more important than on reddit.

      • WhoRoger@lemmy.worldOP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Exactly, it’s about creators and content. If enough creators get ticked off, they move, content moves with them and users follow.

        Let’s not overestimate the algorithm too much. Big Tech thinks it’s some godsend technology, but it’s just another buzzword meaning “stream of content”. If you don’t have any special care about what you’re looking at, then you can just scroll r/all or the TikTok front page, algorithm or not. And if you want some particular creators, you go where they go.

        • Knuschberkeks@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 year ago

          but creators won’t move because YT fights adblockers. Creators make money from the ads, so this actually improves YT for them.

          • WhoRoger@lemmy.worldOP
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Nobody makes money off YT ads, all the creators who do content for money are paid from donations or sponsors. (Ok maybe not those who make just 30 sec clips. I mean people who make useful content.)

            So at most this is meaningless. But it’s not like YT is exactly friendly to creators. There are constant complaints about YT breaking shit, their inconsistent and unclear rules and overall incompetence.

            One of these days YT will also piss off someone important who will move elsewhere with millions of viewers, and starts the flood.

            It’s not just about ads. Everyone knows Google is an extremely toxic company for all the parties except themselves.

            • trainsaresexy@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              Content creators do make money off ads*. Do you mean they make more money from sponsors and donations?

              • WhoRoger@lemmy.worldOP
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 year ago

                I mean the revenue stream from YT is so unreliable. You say shit once in the wrong context, and poof demonetized. Or just for no reason. No creator of actual quality content really makes much from YT, because YT prefers to serve stupid consumer nonsense. A lot prefer to not have ads served on their videos at all (at least if that’s still an option, I don’t even know).

            • zekiz@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              If that would really be true than they wouldn’t complain about being demonetized

    • Danatronic@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I’m also hopeful for more creator-owned services like Nebula and Dropout. They tend to run off extremely cheap subscription models (about $5 a month for Dropout, less than $2 a month for Nebula) and all that money goes to the creators with very little business overhead in the way.

    • Etterra@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      This is the inevitable problem with publicly traded companies in our lovely capitalist society. The line must go up, no matter the cost. Of course it makes no sense, they’re just chasing the short term perpetually without ever noticing the cliff that just past their field of vision.