Rofl, if this isn’t bullshit, those cops must have either been bored out of their minds or just had a good sense of humor.
This is the law enforcement equivalent to a little kid yelling “BOO!” at you, and you pretending to be scared.
“Whaaaaat, you’re arresting -meeee-?!?! Oh noooooo!”
Narrator voice: “it was bullshit”
You can inform a police officer that he or she is under citizen arrest. You can call the police and have an officer come out with the paperwork, which YOU have to sign. If the arrest is false, YOU are liable both criminally and civilly.
No way this isn’t satire
No apparently a video exists of this.
That I’d like to see. I’ll get the popcorn
This is disappointingly devoid of video…
There’s more ads than content in there wtf
I’ve been vaccinated for COVID 5 times over the last 3 years, and have received various vaccines over 41 years. Slowest. Euthanasia. Ever.
You joke, but since you got the jab I can guarantee you will die.
(Just not any faster than normal…)
Thank you for the reminder there is probably a new version I’m missing.
There was a new version last fall and it is still being administered. It’s no longer free (though insurance is supposed to pay), so few have gotten it.
That’s it, you have done it now. You are hereby attested!
Agreed, and my phone didn’t get 5g either
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How good are you at football right now? I’ve been hearing things.
Oh yeah you die at 45 right on your birth date and time, no sooner, no later. You got 4 years left
i was vaccinated in priority because i had to go on a mission with my unit in the military, this would have been the dumbest moment to euthanize me
As an American: I’m really sorry if we infected you with this particular brand of idiocy. If only there were a vaccine…
Someone’s going to reply: education is, but I offer PragerU as counter-evidence. There’s a quality scale in education, as well.
Prager u isn’t education, it’s propaganda.
You have to either watch them and think critically about the content or be “in the know” through our various lefty podcasters and what not though. Prager U does a decent job of hiding that it is propaganda imo. Though I don’t know that I have ever watch a full video myself.
Years ago, I would keep YouTube playing constantly while I was at work and caught a handful of Prager u videos randomly, and this was well before I was the radical leftist I am now, they still rubbed me the wrong way. They did a great job making an argument that was fundamentally wrong but they’d always fail to explain an important mechanism for something critical. I can’t think of any specific examples, I haven’t actually watched one of their videos since I left that job. But it was always a huge leap that they disguised as a given fact. They’re also just straight up lie about historical facts.
That’s the problem right!? It takes no effort to lie but we have spill gallons of ink to fact check them.
The best propaganda is simply the slice of truth you choose to show that supports your original claims.
It is trivially easy to dig up instances of this or that medication having complications or side-effects. And I’ll openly admit that COVID boosters still leave me feeling like shit for a day afterwards. So folks at Praeger can pull together an assortment of anecdotes and testimonials to build an anti-vax case that is entirely “true” while still being complete bullshit by way of omission.
That’s where the whole “getting educated” stuff is a double-edged sword. You can very easily feel well-informed based on the volume of information - true, legitimate, seriously sourced information, confirmable facts - you’ve ingested, and still be lead to some utterly false conclusions.
You can play this game with Tylenol or Chemotherapy or Dialysis as easily as any vaccine. And I do get the sense that, as the UK moves towards divesting itself of a health care infrastructure because shit costs money, we’re going to get more and more of this kind of “Don’t even bother going to a doctor, they’ll kill you!” medical denialism as a kind-of coping mechanism for a health care system that’s been defunded to the point of uselessness.
It is trivially easy to dig up instances of this or that medication having complications or side-effects.
The problem is that when this evidence is mildly negative against vaccination (e.g. myocardial cases in young males) it is denied rather than debated.
myocardial cases in young males
26.7 out of 100,000 cases after the second vaccine dose
Like, on the one end, this is exactly the kind of shit that gets hyper-inflated. The mortality rate of COVID is closer to 2000 cases in 100k than 26.7. And contraction of COVID raises long term risk of heart issues as a consequence. The herd immunity to grants means that, if you can successfully identify high risk individuals, they’re insulated from transmission by the bulk of the population getting vaccinated. So the fear of heart issues is mitigated only when everyone else gets the jab.
On the other, I think there’s a criticism that we haven’t continued to invest in improvements to the mRNA treatment now that we have a simple panacea. And this doesn’t become criticism of vaccination. It becomes a criticism of vaccine skepticism undermining funding of new iterations of the treatment.
it is denied rather than debated
At some point, you can’t keep coming back to the debate table in the middle of a pandemic. You need to move quickly and confidently, rather than re-litigating age old talking points if you want to minimize total public harm.
That might mean ramping up vaccine distribution. It might mean ramping up quarantine measures. It might mean dramatically expanding the availability of testing and contact tracing and improving access to public health care.
But when we’ve embraced a “cheapest, least economically invasive solution” policy method, that means we’re fully on board with the vaccine whether its entirely safe or not. Because what we really care for, in the US, is economic growth. And a jab from even a mediocre vaccine solution is going to be vastly more friendly to the economy than doing nothing or doing a more traditional quarantine approach.
The mortality rate of COVID is closer to 2000 cases in 100k than 26.7.
Ok. So my post was bait. I specifically chose a statistic of young males and myocarditis.
As expected you misread and responded quoting all age mortality.
This was the point I was trying to make. Honest discussions are impossible.
contraction of COVID raises long term risk of heart issues
Above a certain age, yes.
Your link is not focused on young males.
In the specific case of myocarditis in young males, the Pfizer vaccine is higher risk.The herd immunity to grants means that, if you can successfully identify high risk individuals, they’re insulated from transmission by the bulk of the population getting vaccinated.
True for vaccines in general, but for omicron (the dominant strain when most vaccines were given) transmission rates immediately after infection were the same, whether vaccinated or not.
So the fear of heart issues is mitigated only when everyone else gets the jab.
Not empirically true for covid vaccines
On the other, I think there’s a criticism that we haven’t continued to invest in improvements to the mRNA treatment now that we have a simple panacea.
Disagree. mRNA is now an accepted tool and is being explored for a huge number of medical applications.
you can’t keep coming back to the debate table in the middle of a pandemic.
There was no debate during the pandemic. Any criticism was silenced as being anti vaccine.
You need to move quickly and confidently,
In public. But this shouldn’t apply to doctors, scientists and other experts.
But when we’ve embraced a “cheapest, least economically invasive solution” policy method,
Cheapest would have been open sourcing the Oxford vaccine. Bill Gates stopped that from happening. “As a CEPI founder he had leverage”
Because what we really care for, in the US, is economic growth.
Yes. There is no money in an open source, cost of production vaccine, but there is a LOT of money in future mRNA applications.
EDIT: Links added.
Don’t worry. My country’s bible belt has been used in epidemic studies for measles long ago. It’s not just 'Murica.
Now I’m curious where the Bible belt is in your country
I’m fairness, Andrew Wakefield is British.
Hi fairness \o
Is it a typo or a boneappletea moment?
Autocorrect. Darn m and n are too close
I frequently have youtube up on my TV for background noise.
PragerU and those AI generated ads talking about free money are things I see far to frequently, and make me far too irrationally angry.
Honestly, when it comes to Prager (no U because it is not an academic institution), I don’t think that’s irrational anger.
ublock origin and blocktube, take control of your experience.
Which I cant use on xbox, which I use to put it on TV.
That is a very valid point. Then might I suggest a pihole?
As soon as Pis stop being stupid priced.
Call them and yell at them. It will make you feel better
Nah, my phone raging is reserved for one very special group of worthless, miserable wastes of existences whom I would love to do actual, physical violence too.
Oh no mate, this is all our own madness.
I’d honestly be surprised if the whole concept doesn’t predate the US as a country.
I mean the methods to immunize someone was very crude and the entire concept so new that I really don’t think you can compare that to anti-vaxxers nowadays. We’ve got much bigger idiots now.
Oh, I’m talking about the sovereign citizen nonsense, which I gathered from the “I arrested the police” bits.
Theoretically possible to do a citizen’s arrest on the police- in practice, not a chance.
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Anti-vax sovcit? Mark my words - with that level of conspiracism and entitled self-victimisation, they’ll be a full-blown Nazi by the end of the year.
It’s always the Jews with these fuckers.
Well if they didn’t have fucking SPACE LASERS pointed at my favorite PIZZA PLACE.
Let’s do the math here people. P. I. Z. Z. A. What ELSE has 2 Z’s??? That’s right. Nazzis. They’re extra Nazi. And the only way to fight nazzis is with Nazïsm. We need all the Nazis we can get to fight the Jewish space cosmonauts, who will break open the fermament and send us all careening in to the great blue void.
This bullshit, but unironically. Mountains of evidence they’re wrong? Guess who!
“Hey cops, I arrested some of your officers, come get them”
No thanks, I’d rather not look at Big Black Cocks
Your loss bro
The situation is dumb, but citizen’s arrest in general is covered by laws in some counties, UK being among them.
In specific situations, a random person on the street can arrest a criminal lawfully.And under the correct circumstances, you can even lawfully arrest a cop.
Technically. Good luck actually pulling it off.
Ah, but do they have the right to un-arrest?
De-arrest*
You have to use the correct magic words or they don’t work.
If you did that, good luck in court proving that you had the right to arrest them in the first place while you’re getting sued.
This is the UK law for citizens arrest really the most important difference between this and a police arrest is the police can arrest you with the intention of finding out IF a crime has been commited, whereas you must know a crime has been commited by the person you’re arresting, otherwise it’s just kidnapp
Absolutely, they can. I did it several times as a security person at Walmart. The biggest difference is that a citizen does not have immunity to being sued, and a citizen can not transport. You better be damn sure you’re right, or you’re getting sued into oblivion.
American here, how do you de - arrest someone? Over here once you’re arrested only a judge // jury can say you’re not guilty, the person that made the arrest, or the police don’t have any say in that part of the criminal justice system.
If you’re de-arrested you’re not locked in a cell (custody). If you’re released after questioning it’s being de-arrested. If you’re held in a cell during any of it you can’t be de-arrested, you have to be “released without charge”.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-29784497
“de-arrested” is not technically the same as “released without charge”. The key difference in terminology is whether the person is taken into custody and processed, says a spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo).
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/mar/01/law.emmabrockes
TLDR:
- Arrest - copper has you.
- De-arrest - Copper lets go.
- Released without charge - Released from police custody cell (jail) after an arrest.
Can’t the AG just decline to prosecute and release you? Being arrested =/= being charged after all.
That can and does happen, but it’s still a process that takes months at minimum. Months that your either sitting in jail, or if you’re one of the privileged, you’d be sitting out on bail, possibly on house arrest depending on if the judge set any conditions to your release upon bail.
My point was that being arrested does not require a jury to release you unless you’ve been actually charged with something.
It happens all the time. Officer makes the decision to arrest, puts the person in handcuffs and the car. A supervisor shows up, a story gets changed, or an officer finds out that something proves someone is lying, and the person is released. I’ve seen it happen when a non-violent offender had warrants, but it turned out they were having a kid’s birthday party (discovered when the dad came out to check on the mom because she’d been outside ‘smoking’ for longer than usual).
Arrested is a step up from detention. Detention = you’re not free to leave. Arrested = you are not free to go, you’re coming with the officer to jail, and they have belief you committed a crime that you will be charged with (or have a warrant, thus already charged). There is nothing that says once arrested an officer can’t take off handcuffs and let you go. There really isn’t that much distinguishing the two in the law, except for statutes about identifying yourself (where I live, anyway). My laws use the word custody in far greater amounts than arrest.
As a fellow US citizen, my American brain can also not comprehend this. How do you de-shoot someone?!
Police can release without charge.
That’s different than being arrested. Police can hold you for like 24 hours without charging you with anything. Once your officially charged and arrested it’s in the system and goes at the speed of the system.
The opposite of arresting someone is to release them, and police can do it.
Charging someone with a crime is a separate process done by the prosecutor’s office. They can also drop charges.
The police showed their BOFA docs and he was pretty much forced to do so, it wasn’t necessarily his choice here.
I can only assume he said “you’re arrested”.
He probably wrote it in red ink at 45 degrees on the cops’ shadow.
That’s exactly what he did. He just kept asking one officer to arrest the other officer and they all refused and just stared at him like he was a nutjob.
Eventually he just declared they were arrested.
https://www.unilad.com/news/antivaxxer-wants-police-officer-arrested-over-genocide-20220121
And later, “you’re de-arrested.”
By the (lack) of logic of the antivaxx, we all should be dead… 2 years ago.
I’m trying to figure out their logic, they identify as a non-U.S. citizen, but believe they have jurisdiction to make arrests in another country? What is the plan? To detain or abduct members of a foreign country? I’m fairly certain that would be considered an act of war. Better make sure he isn’t armed or he’ll trigger article 5 of NATO and he’ll be at war with several countries.
Well, their strong attributes aren’t being smart for the antivaxx that is for sure.
It will happen next Tuesday at 1pm.
It’s been 3 years since we all started getting vaccinated. Surely we’d all be dead by now.
Oh we’re dead alright!
I’ve been vaccinated multiple times and each time I died within a year later. /s
I died 3 times so far, going to the 4th in a couple of months.
The video footage followed?
That happened.
It did! Didn’t you see that video footage should follow shortly? How much more evidence do you need?
I really really really wish these people would try this to cops in America. The more dead anti-vaccine morons, the better.
I strongly suspect the UK officers came to have a laugh at their expense when told some idiots were trying to “arrest” the police.
“Mate, you need to come round here and see this wanker”
Are these arrested police in the room with us now?
What’s wrong with the centre?
Sounds like they vaccinate people against diseases, which certain people think is a conspiracy. That’s my guess
During COVID, a large number of community centres, and other available buildings were turned into temporary vaccination centres, to distribute the COVID vaccine.
